FSD is a fraud

[gearchruncher]

owever, Tesla is the only one that is sending data out to specify the safety of their systems ( I don't see/hear much actual data to refute their claims).

Care to link to these? Tesla has published AP numbers for years now that are highly debated given how statistically broken they are. I'm intrigued to see what you consider as them "specifying the safety of FSD" in a way that is not refuted.

I've been using AP and FSD Beta combined for over 2 years. Anecdotally, it's a very safe system when using it correctly(!!) in the operational domain intended.

I assume what you mean is it's very safe when it's vigilantly monitored by an attentive driver that disengages it the instant they identify it doing something wrong?
Ok, so is it safer than NOT using it? What is the point of using it if it doesn't reduce your workload? How is it "Assisting" the driver? How is it demonstrating that Tesla is on the road to L3+ Autonomy?

 

[Bouba]

Care to link to these? Tesla has published AP numbers for years now that are highly debated given how statistically broken they are. I'm intrigued to see what you consider as them "specifying the safety of FSD" in a way that is not refuted.


I assume what you mean is it's very safe when it's vigilantly monitored by an attentive driver that disengages it the instant they identify it doing something wrong?
Ok, so is it safer than NOT using it? What is the point of using it if it doesn't reduce your workload? How is it "Assisting" the driver? How is it demonstrating that Tesla is on the road to L3+ Autonomy?

I suspect that that in the L3 that Mercedes is touting and has had the law changed....slow traffic jam on a freeway in perfect circumstances...Tesla would be an L4....really just a case of liability in case the worse happens

 

[Daniel in SD]

I suspect that that in the L3 that Mercedes is touting and has had the law changed....slow traffic jam on a freeway in perfect circumstances...Tesla would be an L4....really just a case of liability in case the worse happens

True, Tesla is the industry leader in hypothetical self-driving systems.

 

[Bouba]

True, Tesla is the industry leader in hypothetical self-driving systems.

I could have said L6....

 

[gearchruncher]

I could have said L6....

Don't give Tesla any ideas. We're gonna see Elon tweeting:

L3-L5 just doesn't make sense, FSD will be in beta until it is ready for L6, which I would shocked if we don't have in 6 months. Definitely 11.6 months. After that, it's up to regulatory approval.