ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
This would be the ticket to adoption: tie it to a login you can use in any Tesla that has the equipment.
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FSD price increase on Jan 17
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ucmndd
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$12,000 for automatic lane changes 
I bought a car 5 years ago based in no small part on the FSD fraud perpetuated in 2016. Anyone paying $12,000 to participate in that fraud in 2022 with the full benefit of hindsight is massively deluded.
I bought a car 5 years ago based in no small part on the FSD fraud perpetuated in 2016. Anyone paying $12,000 to participate in that fraud in 2022 with the full benefit of hindsight is massively deluded.
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Agree.$12,000 for automatic lane changes
I bought a car 5 years ago based in no small part on the FSD fraud perpetuated in 2016. Anyone paying $12,000 to participate in that fraud in 2022 with the full benefit of hindsight is massively deluded.
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
I have FSD now, but I think it would be better investment to put 12K into TSLA!
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
True, although Mobileye may have a say in how much the extra FSD option is worth. Certainly, Mobileye will charge OEM's for the FSD. It will then depend on how much of that the OEM's pass on to the consumer.
I just don’t see it. As a new Tesla Model S owner and trying the subscription FSD for the last month, the only think I like is the auto lane change and really not sure why that is not part of the basic package the comes with the car. Other than that, I don’t even get what FSD does well, as it certainly is no exiting the freeway. I can’t see how it is even close to full FSD, especially in winter climates.
Seems like premature and bad timing. While Musk is optimistically hopeful that FSD Beta will be in wide release soon seems Tesla should have just waited for that day and made the increase part of the promotion. That way if it is delayed (which history indicates it will be) then the increase won't seem so out of place. In fact Tesla probably should have just waited and did a large increase when it is available instead of the incremental increases that have killed the take up rate.
They should REALLY give you long-time FSD buyers the beta as part of the camera update service visit. No one deserves it more than the owners who bought FSD 5+ years ago!
I paid $6k for FSD on my 2020 Y. I had no problem swallowing that pill. I usually check every box when buying a new car, so $6k wasn’t terrible. I also want the best and most advanced ADAS available, and for me, Tesla offered that, and I’m very happy with the performance of 10.8.
I hang onto cars for about 2years, so it’s about time for me to think about ordering another Y or an X. It would be stupid for me to pay for FSD at $10,000, as the subscription service would only cost me $4,800.00 over the course of two years.
Now, if FSD was priced at $4-5k, I’d buy the option outright, even if I was paying more then what the subscription would cost over the duration of ownership. $12,000.00 is off the table for me. You find $12,000.00 options on Bentleys, Tesla’s aren’t Bentleys.
I hang onto cars for about 2years, so it’s about time for me to think about ordering another Y or an X. It would be stupid for me to pay for FSD at $10,000, as the subscription service would only cost me $4,800.00 over the course of two years.
Now, if FSD was priced at $4-5k, I’d buy the option outright, even if I was paying more then what the subscription would cost over the duration of ownership. $12,000.00 is off the table for me. You find $12,000.00 options on Bentleys, Tesla’s aren’t Bentleys.
dark cloud
Active Member
If he had taken that 7K and put it in an S&P 500 index fund, he would have made ~(4677-3265)/3200 = .44 x 7000 = $3088 on it
I'm not even going to work out what he would have if he bought any particular single stock
Hindsight is always 20/20, of course.
Everyone has their own ideology about what they enjoy in life, which dictates what to spend their money in order to give life purpose.
Personally FSD to me in virtually worthless: If my car were able to have it if and when it ever happens I don't think I would pay $500 for it.
Being able to drive long highways without needing to put my foot or hands on either a pedal or steering wheel is all I will ever want.
diamond.g
Active Member
I think the original EAP was worth 5k. Really FSD on top of it has been worth nothing up until the Navigate on City streets beta.
linux-works
Active Member
I'm not sure that you can compare them as purchasable products, though. they are embedded products.
the only one to sell tesla software is tesla.
otoh, I expect many vendors to latch on to 3rd party *working* sw and M.E. seems like one of the leaders of the pack.
one huge diff: tesla never intended their software to be portable to other architectures/cars. so, really, it would be too much effort for any car company to buy and integrate tesla's sw.
imagine having to DEAL with tesla as a SUPPLIER! I shudder at the thought!
no, no one would want to even try integrating tesla's software. and they are too far along to go with something more standard and portable (as much as I dislike much of its aspects, autosar IS the only real standard out there and if you want to mix/max more advanced ecu's you'll need to at least speak autosar API to them.
when you go it alone, you have to patch your own stacks, write all your own drivers and new code and tbh, tesla has run into a wall where they just cannot manage this much tech and keep it moving forward at their 'old rate'. the legacy code (we call it 'built up technical dept') will catch up with them, as I bet it already has. its also why you hear about 'rewrites', periodically.
Like many commentators here I too purchased FSD with my 2018 Model 3.
Though the price was a bit high back then, but as a 73 year old guy thought it had two distinctive benefits. Robotaxi & if/when my driving abilities declined…..still had the freedom of a car to move around in.
So, flash forward to 2021! Imagine my surprise when you learn the vapor-ware is not transferable or no consideration when you purchase another Tesla. Still purchased a Model Y as Tesla is still a great choice in the ev market. However….as said in several posts, EM is really out of touch in so many ways with FSD. Subscription model would be my advice if someone just had to have FSD! However….talk about the old time snake oil peddlers, IMO, we all got snookered. Competition will certainly sort out this over the next several years.
May I live long enough to see it all happen.
Wait….at the rate all FSD is going, might need to be a 100! LOL
That's what I tell my friends, buy tesla for the way it is without FSD. Don't even bother with FSD. Besides, FSD will likely never figure out how to drive in the snow.
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