FSD video completely fake?

[daktari]

I might've missed out on something. Will there an announcement from Tesla on Wednesday about AP?

Source Electrek
"Tesla (TSLA) is set to release its fourth quarter 2017 financial results on Wednesday, February 7 after market close. As usual, the release of the results will be followed by a conference call and Q&A with Tesla’s management at 2:30pm Pacific Time (5:30pm Eastern Time)."

 

[hpartsch]

Does it make sense they need the New Navigation System (maps) to come before any meaningful updates on EAP and FSD? If so, I am hoping that happens soon.

Yep, can't have a self driving car until the Navigation is accurate.

 

[chillaban]

I might've missed out on something. Will there an announcement from Tesla on Wednesday about AP?

It's speculation. Sparked by Elon's announcement that there's an AP update in "final release candidate" and a bit of teasing by ElonsJeans on Reddit, we suspect that the release is likely timed with the earnings conference.

 

[croman]

So much teasing.

 

[d21mike]

What Release / Version Nunber will be the “Final Release Canidate”?

Are we talking about Firmware 8.2 or 9.0 or 2018.6?

 

[ChrML]

What Release / Version Nunber will be the “Final Release Canidate”?

Are we talking about Firmware 8.2 or 9.0 or 2018.6?

Probably depends how the final testing goes. Maybe 2018.6 or 2018.8 if lucky.

 

[BigD0g]

We are speculating there will be FSD announcement, though seems likely...

 

[daktari]

Well, if not an announcement, they really need to communicate some details to the investors on status of development.

 

[thomasmb]

Well, if not an announcement, they really need to communicate some details to the investors on status of development.

Same was true half a year ago…

 

[croman]

Well, if not an announcement, they really need to communicate some details to the investors on status of development.

They only tell half truths. Best let actions guide and not more deception.

 

[BigD0g]

I suspect, the earnings call is going to be all about the M3 and Tesla Energy. We may get a blip about the CTC drive sometime early this year. The investors don't seem to care about FSD, they care about the M3 and the cash burn....

 

[tyson]

I suspect, the earnings call is going to be all about the M3 and Tesla Energy. We may get a blip about the CTC drive sometime early this year. The investors don't seem to care about FSD, they care about the M3 and the cash burn....

This ^... Once the M3 ramp is going and those customers start wanting FSD delivered there will be more pressure placed on Tesla by the investors... at 2.5-5k a week there are a lot more people tick off with late delivery of features.

 

[R.S]

They only tell half truths. Best let actions guide and not more deception.

Wanna bet they will talk about how many miles of "shadow mode" the cars have done?

They will say:
GM Cruise: 131,000 miles on Californian roads
Waymo: 352,500 miles on Californian roads
Tesla: 1,000,000,000 miles globally

That should be enough to keep most people happy and it isn't a lie.

This ^... Once the M3 ramp is going and those customers start wanting FSD delivered there will be more pressure placed on Tesla by the investors... at 2.5-5k a week there are a lot more people tick off with late delivery of features.

Why should they be impatient, they just got their cars. And those are still waiting for heated rear seats. So enough progress to keep those happy.

 

[lunitiks]

lol. sorry, just lol

 

[stopcrazypp]

Why should they be impatient, they just got their cars. And those are still waiting for heated rear seats. So enough progress to keep those happy.

It's the investors that would be impatient, not the buyers. The FSD people waiting already paid in full, there is no pressure for investors. However, the Model 3 reservations have not been converted to full orders and there's a ton more revenue potential.

FSD simply isn't critical to the survival of the company and it's fairly far down on a list to be concerned about for investors, even if Tesla doesn't hit milestones for it (which the sole one so far for a cross country trip by end of last year, they missed already). Model 3 however will make or break the company and milestones there are far more important for investors.

 

[tyson]

Wanna bet they will talk about how many miles of "shadow mode" the cars have done?

They will say:
GM Cruise: 131,000 miles on Californian roads
Waymo: 352,500 miles on Californian roads
Tesla: 1,000,000,000 miles globally

That should be enough to keep most people happy and it isn't a lie.



Why should they be impatient, they just got their cars. And those are still waiting for heated rear seats. So enough progress to keep those happy.

Not talking about the people who have taken delivery to date... those are all employees or existing owners. They know what they signed up for with Tesla. I am talking about the people who order the $35k, + whatever FSD is, base model when they are pumping out 5k a week. The average american consumer is not patient....

 

[J1mbo]

That should be enough to keep most people happy IF it isn't a lie.

Fixed it for you!

Seriously, it would be good to see some evidence of the sort of data they are collecting in Shadow Mode. Originally, we saw some mapping data that Tesla had collected, and stats about where in the lane a human driver was most likely to be vs AP, so maybe something along those lines.

 

[chillaban]

Fixed it for you!

Seriously, it would be good to see some evidence of the sort of data they are collecting in Shadow Mode. Originally, we saw some mapping data that Tesla had collected, and stats about where in the lane a human driver was most likely to be vs AP, so maybe something along those lines.

Yeah, honestly, if shadow mode is just the snapshots that we've decoded here, it's not equivalent at all to the kind of autonomous miles that other companies are collecting. The snapshots only has rough metrics for autopilot usage at various speeds, disengagements, and takes short video clips (on rare occasion) for certain driving conditions. It doesn't magically let the mothership train an AI based off the collective driving of the Tesla fleet.

I'd love it if all of those with rooted cars have missed something dramatic and exciting (much like when we first found the ADAS map tiles), but it doesn't seem terribly likely at this time.

 

[tyson]

Does anyone have root on their APE?

 

[lunitiks]

Does anyone have root on their APE?

At least one famous creature