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Fuel Free transport Machine

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by vikram_gupta11, May 8, 2017.

  1. vikram_gupta11

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    The presented concept is a completely perpetual machine.
    In this design there will be two inclined track systems .There will be also two seesaw system which will work to put the train on these inclined tracks and train will move with the help of gravity power.
    These seesaw will get energy with a motor and this motor will work to press these seesaw systems.

    HOW THIS DESIGN WILL WORK?

    When the vehicle wil be moved from right to left direction on the inclined surface then it will be started to move due to gravity.when this will arrived at the bottom track of seesaw then this seesaw will be balanced as the other arm of seesaw will have a counter weight equal to the train or vehicle.
    Now this seesaw will work this vehicle on the second track which is inclined in opposite direction with the help of a motor as this motor will work to press the counter weight arm of seesaw and this seesaw will work as a lift up system to put the vehicle on the track.

    In this way this mechanism will work turn by turn .When this vehicle will arrived at the bottom of left to right direction the same mechanism will work to put the train on the track again.

    There will be some generators which will be attached with the wheel of Train coach(VEHICLE) and these generators will work to generate electricity .There will also a permanent magnetic linear generator system which will work to generate electricity.These generators will work on the equal polarity of magnets. In this generator only one magnet will be attached with vehicle and several with track in this way when vehicle will move on the track then these magnets will work to repel each other due to equal polarity to move a spring based generator.

    If we take 1000 kilogram mass of vehicle then
    P.E.=mgh
    P.E.= 1000*10*1= 10000 joule
    Output will be 10000 joule but input to put the vehicle again on the inclined track will be only 50 to 100 joule due to balanced seesaw.

    The salient feature :

    (1) this is completely a perpetual machine as we all know that there will be need of very very less energy to put the vehicle on the track due to balanced seesaw but the vehicle will generate more and more energy depending on the length of track system and mass of vehicle..

    (2) the kinetic energy will be more than the input or out put will be more than input.

    (3) A complete over unity tech .In this design there is no problem of inertia or friction.
    I HAVE DONE MANY EXPERIMENTS ON THIS TECH AND ITS WORKS REALLY.
     

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    #2 BluestarE3, May 8, 2017
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    The only thing perpetual are your repeated attempts to try to promote your seesaw device that won't work... ever.
    Energy with Seesaw system
     
  3. vikram_gupta11

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    I have done many experiments on it and it will work .
    Tell me why it shouldn't work? Any one reason.
     
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    Newton
     
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    There is no such thing as free energy. Perpetual watches, Rolex, Breitling, Hublot, work on a similar concept as you machine. On an are that is moving, the energy transfer is not noticeable. However, people with multiple perpetual watches have a machine called a "Watch Winder" they constantly move the watch to keep the perpetual motor running and the watch wound up. Those watch winders use more electrical energy in one day than a Quartz watch uses in a year. There is always loss due to friction.

    John
     
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    The energy required to reset the counterweights will be greater than the energy produced by the vehicle. Basically, once you've lifted the vehicle to the top of the track, the potential energy of the counterweight will be spent, and the motor will have to replenish this energy before the seesaw is ready to do a new lift. All the energy in the system comes from these motors.
     
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    I have one for you: did you know you are 'heavier' through the night than you are thrugh the day?

    In the night sun is helping earth pulling you to the ground (they both pull in generally the same direction).
    In the day sun is trying to lift you from the ground, earth always wins so you stay on the ground but the force is not the same.

    This means that a machine could be made that pumped energy into some weight through the day and extracted it in the night - there would be more!
    Also there is moon that is playing its own dance and would have to be taken into consideration.

    Is this free energy? As free as sunlight... it will eventually run out.
     
  8. vikram_gupta11

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    This one is completely different than the watch winder and above all the FRICTION is not an issue in this design.
     
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    It seems that you have not understood it clearly.The counter wight will be attached permanently with the arm of seesaw and motor will work to just press the arm (COUNTER WEIGHT SIDE ARM) of this balanced seesaw with the help of a shaft.The seesaw will have a vehicle on the arm and on the second arm a permanently attached weight.(EQUAL THE WEIGHT OF VEHICLE).
    But remember if a seesaw is in balanced position then there is no need of large amount of energy to turn it even you can turn it with the power of just your FINGER TIPS and it doesn't matter how much its heavy. It will consume or motor will consume very very less energy to push the counter weight side arm of balanced seesaw to lift up the vehicle and reset it on the inclined track.

    If you are not agree with me then you can try it on a balanced seesaw that how much force you will have to apply to lift the heavy weight but remember seesaw must be in balanced position.
     
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    If its works through repeated attempts then what's the wrong?
     
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    Dear sir,

    I have done some work on it and after that I post it in this forum .You cannot prove it wrong on the basis of these types of quotes.
     
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    The seesaw is no longer balanced once the vehicle is unloaded on the top of the incline. At that point you only have the counterweight at one end and nothing on the other end. That means you need to expend a significant amount of energy resetting the seesaw by lifting the counterweight back to its initial position.
     
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  13. doubleohwhat

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    You should have done a bit more work researching the correct forum to post in. This is the Tesla Energy forum. You're in the wrong place.
     
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    #14 BluestarE3, May 8, 2017
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    I may know a Nigerian prince who may be interested in helping you see your concept come to fruition as a victorious commercial enterprise by providing you with virtually unlimited financial backing. All he asks is for you to first wire US $100,000 to his account as a good-faith gesture to prove your sincerity and to vouch for the efficacy of your invention.
     
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    friction is just one of the problems
     
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    Take a seesaw at rest with no passengers on it. Try to move it. It will start moving with little force. But it takes that little force to overcome the FRICTION at the fulcrum. Now add 200 pounds on each side. Note that it will take more force to keep the seesaw moving. This is due to the increased friction, since all bearings have a coefficient of friction associated with them. This is the smallest of your problems with the seesaw.
    I mentioned watches as they go to great effort to reduce the friction in the "perpetual" system. They now call these watches automatic watches as the system is not Turley perpetual.

    John
     
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    Here is a solution of this problem and FRICTION problem.
    I just have to attached a 'U' shape long hook with counter weight arm of seesaw and this hook will work to hold the counter weight arm and seesaw in horizontal position after unloading the mass.
    To avoid friction problem the length of arm will be greater than the fixed middle track and due to kinetic energy the vehicle or object will be arrived on second seesaw .When the motor will push the counter weight arm of right side seesaw towards upside then it will be inclined and object will be started to move towards left side seesaw but the hook system will work to hold the seesaw after unloading.
    In this way this design will work to solve the problem imbalanced seesaw and friction.
     

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    Look, you're not solving anything. Lifting the vehicle up to the top of the track requires energy. You are taking that energy from the counterweight, and disregarding the fact that the seesaw has to be reset to it's initial position before the vehicle takes it's second trip around the track.

    Resetting the counterweight requires more energy than the vehicle would produce. That's just how physics work.
     
  19. vikram_gupta11

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    Dear sir, At first see the latest upload image in this reply.You are not understanding what I want to say .In this sketch There will be only a single track system and counter weight will be not a problem due to hook as hook will work to solve this problem.
     

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    If hyperloop were a true vacume and maglev supported, an U incline on the the track (for instance stations at skyscrap top floors, or tracks largely deep underground) would allow for zero energy high speed long distance transport. I've been promoting this for decades, and others likely centuries before me.

    U layout tracks (start with a downslope, end with an upslope) are amazing. If you have a random road going straight and flat, a detour dipping lower, with a horizontal section before ramping back up and joining the original course, will save time without the need to increase power output.

    Cooler example , you can see it in front of you, I'm sure.
    We have 2 wooden tracks made to guide glass marbles from point A to point B.
    We use gravity to power the marble. Horizontal distance is 10 meters, vertical is -0.50 meters. B is half a meter lower than point A.
    Track 1 takes a straight line from A down to B, we'd call that 10% downslope in automotive.
    Track 2 dives at 45º (%'s gets iffy that steep) one meter down, then levels out, before a 45º slope half a meter back up straight to B.

    Marble on track 1 will gradually increase speed from zero and take (say) 8 seconds from A to B.
    Marble on track 2 will reach a much higher speed than 1's finish already shortly after the start, cross the flat section at that speed, and then quickly roll up to B in (say) 5 seconds.
    Both A and B (presuming no losses) consume the same net potential energy from gravity. But by first taking a loan from gravity, 2 dipping deeper, it gets to save lots of time on the travel.

    Marble 1 feels cheated, it too the shortest course rolling as fast as it could.

    Transportation technology should be more like Marble 2.

    If you'd have a true vacume maglev hyperloop track along the bottom of the Atlantic, start station a the top of a New York skyscraper, steep down and then just following the contours of Mother Earth along the ocean floor, the hyperloop could well beat a jetliner to Europe. And all the energy consumed would be the free fall kinetic energy for the Hyperloop pod's mass for that given height loss. Minute compared to a private jet all fueled up, obviously.
     

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