Yes you can have HW3 plus MCU1 but it won't result in FSD because you need MCU2 to get it despite Tesla's lies. You'll also need upgraded cameras in that config unless HW2.5.
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Full Self Driving Capability - Not having full self driving?
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Yes you can have HW3 plus MCU1 but it won't result in FSD because you need MCU2 to get it despite Tesla's lies. You'll also need upgraded cameras in that config unless HW2.5.
My Model S has same Full Self Driving Capability, and the service guy in the Dedham, MA center said Model S has full self driving, but model X doesn't. But on the front screen, both cars have "Full Self Driving Capability Package Included" on the main screen. Also on my myTesla app, I also cannot upgrade the software just like my Model X.
To make more confusing, he said my Model S will cost only $1500 without radio tuner but my model X will need to be $2000 for the upgrade.
I am calling them now and I miss Tesla 2 years ago, when I could talk to a human rep in less than 5-15 min of call. These days it takes easily over 1 hour just to talk to them about any issues. Anyway, I will give updates after I talk with them.
Bigriver
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This is referring to the MCU2 upgrade, not the FSD computer upgrade. Perhaps this helps some.
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I talked with them over the phone for over 1 hour, nothing resolved.
They keep saying I only have enhanced autopilot on my Model X.
Two possibilities:
1. Original owner probably paid FSD package $3,000 AFTER THE DELIVERY (back then after purchasing $5,000 EA) but somehow Tesla didn't/couldn't update.
2. Maybe the car was in the transition state where original owner was lucky to get EA+FSD for the price of AP 1.0 (I remember it was either $2500 or $3000 back then.) and the service people may not be aware of grandfathered EA and FSD.
3. Maybe the original owner didn't buy FSD but Tesla screwed up with FSD Package included by accident. I highly doubt this. If the original owner never paid for it, they would somehow have removed it at one point.
Both service centers and the Tesla CSR say, I have to pay additional cost to get the full selfdriving. To make even worse, he doesn't know how much I have to pay more. He keeps saying the price is up to the service team. But when I talked with the service team, they say they have standardized pricing so price is fixed. But several reps in the service center give me different pricing.
And we are talking about the NUMBER 1 car manufacturer in the world whose market cap is bigger than all automakers combined in the world.
They keep saying I only have enhanced autopilot on my Model X.
Two possibilities:
1. Original owner probably paid FSD package $3,000 AFTER THE DELIVERY (back then after purchasing $5,000 EA) but somehow Tesla didn't/couldn't update.
2. Maybe the car was in the transition state where original owner was lucky to get EA+FSD for the price of AP 1.0 (I remember it was either $2500 or $3000 back then.) and the service people may not be aware of grandfathered EA and FSD.
3. Maybe the original owner didn't buy FSD but Tesla screwed up with FSD Package included by accident. I highly doubt this. If the original owner never paid for it, they would somehow have removed it at one point.
Both service centers and the Tesla CSR say, I have to pay additional cost to get the full selfdriving. To make even worse, he doesn't know how much I have to pay more. He keeps saying the price is up to the service team. But when I talked with the service team, they say they have standardized pricing so price is fixed. But several reps in the service center give me different pricing.
And we are talking about the NUMBER 1 car manufacturer in the world whose market cap is bigger than all automakers combined in the world.
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I bought three cars within six months and paid three different prices. What a shitshow for sure.I talked with them over the phone for over 1 hour, nothing resolved.
They keep saying I only have enhanced autopilot on my Model X.
Two possibilities:
1. Original owner probably paid FSD package $3,000 AFTER THE DELIVERY (back then after purchasing $5,000 EA) but somehow Tesla didn't/couldn't update.
2. Maybe the car was in the transition state where original owner was lucky to get EA+FSD for the price of AP 1.0 (I remember it was either $2500 or $3000 back then.)
Both service centers and the Tesla CSR say, I have to pay additional cost to get the full selfdriving. To make even worse, he doesn't know how much I have to pay more. He keeps saying the price is up to the service team. But when I talked with the service team, they say they have standardized pricing so price is fixed.
And we are talking about the NUMBER 1 car manufacturer in the world whose market cap is bigger than all automakers combined in the world.
KentuckyX
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The problem with the supply of cameras, as I found out during my retrofit last week, is the “new” front fender cameras are shipped with the black housing on them. The rangers have to fit them with the silver housings before installing them into our (older) vehicles. I was postponed 4 times due to this. They had the cameras but not the trim.
Just an update that I do have FSD after upgrades. I don't have to pay $199/mo. subscription.
Service in Dedham lied. Full Self Driving Capabilities on the dashboard means Full Self Driving.
Bunch of idiots & crooks with their bromance running the center. They think customers are retards and probably think they can get away. It was full 1+ hour waste of time arguing with them. Too bad I cannot get my time back.
I will never visit Dedham, MA center, ever again. I would rather drive down to Rhode Islands service center despite longer drive distance because they are prompt, honest and more professional.
Service in Dedham lied. Full Self Driving Capabilities on the dashboard means Full Self Driving.
Bunch of idiots & crooks with their bromance running the center. They think customers are retards and probably think they can get away. It was full 1+ hour waste of time arguing with them. Too bad I cannot get my time back.
I will never visit Dedham, MA center, ever again. I would rather drive down to Rhode Islands service center despite longer drive distance because they are prompt, honest and more professional.
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Solar40
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I figured that. You shouldn’t have to pay additional cost for fsd. The only thing you should have to do is get the mcu2 upgrade. Which I think is bs too. It should be on mcu1 already.
@Maximilien - I am in similar boat. I have FSD included and have scheduled MCU2 upgrade. How do I know version of my camera? Once I upgrade MCU how do I enroll into FSD beta?
Once you have all the requisite hardware, then the option to request the FSD Beta and join the queue is in the settings menu, under autopilot (or whatever they call the screen where you configure the autopilot settings).
EDIT: I think in mine that section is called “Driving and Steering”.
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