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That's the thing, I don't see option prices being half that of a Model S.Base model S is $66k and top of the line is about $150k, so more than a double in the price. If the ratios are held constant and assuming a $35k base price, the top end Model 3 would be about $80k. Assuming that some of the items have a cost floor (like the inconel used in ludicrous upgrades), I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little bit more, maybe $90k.
Speaking about options in general... I would love if the option prices are proportionately scaled from the Model S based on the base price. If they are, I will be likely to get a number of packages, but otherwise, it may just be range and AP that I spend my money on. Subzero, audio, and AWD would be "nice to have" options, but it will just depend on the price.
I hear you and tend to agree. One of the bigger variables this time around is scale - Tesla can place orders in the hundreds of thousands rather than tens of thousands, and so it might result in getting better prices, but it's tough to say how big of a difference if might make.That's the thing, I don't see option prices being half that of a Model S.
Model S options are priced with decent margins, but certainly not more than 100% profit. Even if they were 100% profit, now if you suddenly sell everything at half the cost for the Model 3, there is zero profit. Things like dual motors will not vary much in price. Sure, the Model 3 motors might be a little cheaper, but nowhere near half the cost. What's more likely is that instead of $5000 for dual motors and Tesla pocketing $1000, Model 3 might have slightly cheaper motors that cost $4000 and profiting $500. I have no idea if those numbers are anywhere near realistic, but I think it gives you an idea of what the options will cost. They will be cheaper, but not half.
To that end, to keep costs down for a maxed out 3, I think there will be slightly cheaper options and also less of them compared to a Model S. After all, some options must be reserved for the higher-end, more luxurious car. And the shared options might not be as lavish. Maybe the premium package doesn't include a HEPA filter or lighted door handles. In addition to knocking off a small percentage of each feature in that package, having fewer features means the package price goes down even further.
What is the base price of the M3's competition?Base model S is $66k and top of the line is about $150k, so more than a double in the price. If the ratios are held constant and assuming a $35k base price, the top end Model 3 would be about $80k. Assuming that some of the items have a cost floor (like the inconel used in ludicrous upgrades), I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little bit more, maybe $90k.
Speaking about options in general... I would love if the option prices are proportionately scaled from the Model S based on the base price. If they are, I will be likely to get a number of packages, but otherwise, it may just be range and AP that I spend my money on. Subzero, audio, and AWD would be "nice to have" options, but it will just depend on the price.
What is the fully optioned competition price?Fully optioned Model 3 price in USD?
What is the fully optioned competition price?
I understand what you are saying however in the automotive world. ICE compares to EV. They have the same size classes.A good question - I believe the Model 3 has no direct competition.
Which other electric mid sized sedan, can do 0-60mph in (potentially) sub 3 seconds, with a range of (potentially) >300 miles?
We could compare it to the BMW M3, the Merc C63 etc, but they're a different beast being ICE, slower acceleration, etc etc
At least the conversation is heading in the correct direction. Now all we have to do is wait until Tesla posts the options and their prices. One good thing "WE KNOW" is that the Base price is HALF of the competition.
i hope they max it out at no more than 70k. Prices over that cant be justified for normal people no matter how hard you try (and I'm trying! ) Price for volume Elon!!
I have to disagree that this car will move from $35K to $90K. Almost 3 times the base price? I just cant see it.I don't know, once you add in the biggest battery + Performance + Ludicrous, it will probably be pushing 60-65k or so. And that's without all the extras like AP, supercharging, paint, pano, wheels, etc. Definitely going to be more like 85k-90k if you check every single box on the order page.
I just can't see buying a Model 3 with every single box checked for the same price as a base Model S 60 with zero options. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though once the numbers come out, as someone who is desperately waiting to buy a Model 3 and would love to get as many options as I can possibly afford.I have to disagree that this car will move from $35K to $90K. Almost 3 times the base price? I just cant see it.