In what ways is the yoke, a non-round steering wheel, "so much better than the wheel?"
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In what ways is the yoke, a non-round steering wheel, "so much better than the wheel?"
Assuming you are serious, I presume you never:
1. Parallel park?
2. Use turn signals on a roundabout?
3. Make sharp turns?
4. Have to use your horn to alert others to a hazard?
5. Have to quickly shift from Drive to Reverse, or vice-versa?
I ask because I do these things and find the yoke to be an absurd abuse of Human Factors Engineering, as if Elon Musk is playing a grand joke on Model S and X buyers . . . .
I speculate that now that these are finally being delivered to the EU, where they take safe driving far, far more seriously than in the US, the initial burst of sales (after a jaw-dropping 2-YEAR gap) will be met with a massive sales decline, and then we will finally get the ROUND steering wheel and stalks back, or so I sincerely hope.
The stalkless yoke is such an absurd gimmick and it seriously compromises safety. And after nearly 10 months, we STILL don't even have the damn horn back. How is it that Tesla can be both brilliant, and pathetic, at the same time?
Tesla Model S and Model X steering yoke to receive push center for horn update
It appears that the Tesla Model S and Model X’s steering yokes are about to get an update that would make them easier to use. As recently noted by Elon Musk, all Model S and Model X made since November have actually been equipped with a push center for horn feature — it just needs […]
Actually the Model S and X delivered in Europe do have the Yoke.In what ways is the yoke, a non-round steering wheel, "so much better than the wheel?"
Assuming you are serious, I presume you never:
1. Parallel park?
2. Use turn signals on a roundabout?
3. Make sharp turns?
4. Have to use your horn to alert others to a hazard?
5. Have to quickly shift from Drive to Reverse, or vice-versa?
I ask because I do these things and find the yoke to be an absurd abuse of Human Factors Engineering, as if Elon Musk is playing a grand joke on Model S and X buyers . . . .
I speculate that now that these are finally being delivered to the EU, where they take safe driving far, far more seriously than in the US, the initial burst of sales (after a jaw-dropping 2-YEAR gap) will be met with a massive sales decline, and then we will finally get the ROUND steering wheel and stalks back, or so I sincerely hope.
The stalkless yoke is such an absurd gimmick and it seriously compromises safety. And after nearly 10 months, we STILL don't even have the damn horn back. How is it that Tesla can be both brilliant, and pathetic, at the same time?
Tesla Model S and Model X steering yoke to receive push center for horn update
It appears that the Tesla Model S and Model X’s steering yokes are about to get an update that would make them easier to use. As recently noted by Elon Musk, all Model S and Model X made since November have actually been equipped with a push center for horn feature — it just needs […]
YES, I love driving with left hand at 12:00 on the wheel! I used to race off-road and and it’s easier to turn rapidly either left on right with a solid grip on the wheel. Right hand on the shifter or turning breke…would love to right a rear steering “throttle that would shift power from one rear wheel to the other. …Anybody see/like that? Imagine the control drifts you could do!!
I think the yoke is the reason I cant get an MX test drive...perhaps people hate it, no??In what ways is the yoke, a non-round steering wheel, "so much better than the wheel?"
Assuming you are serious, I presume you never:
1. Parallel park?
2. Use turn signals on a roundabout?
3. Make sharp turns?
4. Have to use your horn to alert others to a hazard?
5. Have to quickly shift from Drive to Reverse, or vice-versa?
I ask because I do these things and find the yoke to be an absurd abuse of Human Factors Engineering, as if Elon Musk is playing a grand joke on Model S and X buyers . . . .
I speculate that now that these are finally being delivered to the EU, where they take safe driving far, far more seriously than in the US, the initial burst of sales (after a jaw-dropping 2-YEAR gap) will be met with a massive sales decline, and then we will finally get the ROUND steering wheel and stalks back, or so I sincerely hope.
The stalkless yoke is such an absurd gimmick and it seriously compromises safety. And after nearly 10 months, we STILL don't even have the damn horn back. How is it that Tesla can be both brilliant, and pathetic, at the same time?
Tesla Model S and Model X steering yoke to receive push center for horn update
It appears that the Tesla Model S and Model X’s steering yokes are about to get an update that would make them easier to use. As recently noted by Elon Musk, all Model S and Model X made since November have actually been equipped with a push center for horn feature — it just needs […]
How, in any way shape or form is it more efficient?
Yoke is way cooler than the wheel. You feel like driving a race car or flying an airplane. Although neither the race car nor airplane yoke have anything to do with the Tesla yoke implementation.
1. Unobstructed view of IC. Many have no problem with the round steering wheel, but it depends a lot on your body and seating. Some just always have part of the IC obstructed. Not so with Yoke.
Will concede on this point.
Disagree. Unless you crash straight into someone without trying to avoid the accident. In reality you may be trying to turn to avoid it, or going round a bend at the time of the accident, in which case your point is not valid, in fact it is worse. With a wheel you can hold in a different position when going round a corner, however in the case of the yoke you don't have much choice in how you hold it.
Horn is not better or safer. I hardly ever use my horn. The few times I did need it I pressed the center of the yoke, just like I have done for the last +30 years of driving. Even then, when I realized my mistake, I mashed the right side, only to have it be effective about 50% of the time. The right side mashing is really about accidently hitting the horn button. That muscle memory is hard to retrain unless you one of those folks that use a horn like blinkers. Don't get me started on trying to use blinkers in a turn, like a roundabout. I also find disabling the blinker to be a pain. I inevitably press the opposite blinker to try cancel, which then just enables the opposite blinker, confusing the drivers around me, making it less safe.
Personally I hate using the screen to control the airflow and the new air vents in the refresh. It distracts from my driving, versus just manually moving the controls with my hands. I don't even need to look. Also, the air vents on my 2018 S are not in anyway obstructed by the wheel.
