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Future features: 'Sleep' mode and a 'sensor suite' of driver safety features

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by twinklejet, May 14, 2013.

  1. twinklejet

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    New Model S Features / Tesla’s Straubel Keeps Motors Rolling as Stock Surges 57%

    [Bloomberg] May 14 2013 04:01Z
    Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-14/tesla-s-straubel-keeps-motors-rolling-as-stock-surges-57-.html

    Elon Musk was fresh off the sale of PayPal and starting another business, commercial rocket service Space Exploration Technologies Corp., when he met kindred spirit JB Straubel. Their shared belief that consumer electronics advances could be applied to more earthly modes of transport is a cornerstone of Tesla Motors Inc. (TSLA)
    Straubel’s first company, Volacom Inc., designed unmanned electric aircraft. He sold the assets to Boeing Co. and was working with it in late 2003 when he attended a Stanford University speech by Musk on his startup SpaceX. Then, over lunch in Los Angeles, the two moved from ideas on aerospace to electric vehicles.

    “The whole thing really grew out of an idea of how to leverage commercial advances that were happening in lithium-ion batteries,” Straubel, 37, said in an interview this month. “That was the premise Elon and I discussed over that first lunch: that batteries have come much further than anyone expects, certainly than the auto industry expects.”
    While the two have very different personalities -- Straubel is a soft-spoken, publicity-shy engineer, while Musk is famously voluble and frenetic -- they quickly found a shared passion for the idea that lithium-ion battery cells used in consumer electronics could be rigged up to power a car. His work on the company’s powertrain has......

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  2. AnOutsider

    AnOutsider S532 # XS27

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    Good read. A nice paragraph:

     
  3. stevezzzz

    stevezzzz R;SigS;P85D;SigX

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    And this is a feature I've long wanted Tesla to add:

    "We're working on a trip-planning feature that integrates energy and range management with navigation," Straubel said. "We could load altitude databases, weather and wind information into the car, along with details about the roads you are on. There's a long road map of features we want to add."
     
  4. Raffy.Roma

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    So it looks that pedestrian detection, collision avoidance at low speed and blind spot detection are coming soon for Model S. Also ACC is mentioned. Good!
     
  5. brianstorms

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    Is this the "something else this week" announcement? A press briefing at Tesla today?

    Or is Elon gonna schedule a conf call like the other announcements?
     
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    Looks like these updates will serve as the foundation for the upcoming "autopilot" features Elon has mentioned prior...
     
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    Looks like they're putting JB out-in-front (from a PR standpoint) a bit more now as he was also featured in the press conference on NVIDIA updates yesterday. Perhaps they're positioning JB as the balance to Elon - even alluding to it in that quote:
    "While the two have very different personalities -- Straubel is a soft-spoken, publicity-shy engineer, while Musk is famously voluble and frenetic -- they quickly found a shared passion"

    Even though I think Elon is also pretty soft-spoken too (but bold in his statements), I see the direction they're taking with this PR angle and it could work effectively with the media.
     
  8. Rla

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    Future Tesla Model S features; JB Straubel

    http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23242007/future-tesla-model-s-features-sleep-mode-sensor-suite-jb-straubel

    Combine the knowledge of the planned/upcoming roads with the knowledge about the current charge, driving style, (Super)charger locations, charger availability and usage patterns, speed limits, real-time speed, ...
    And you will be so far away from 'Range Anxiety' and so much further than the current (ridiculous) state of navigation aids. Just get in the car and speak your destination; you just handle the accelerator and steering wheel, and mind the road ;-)
     
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    Combine the knowledge of the planned/upcoming roads with the knowledge about the current charge, driving style, (Super)charger locations, charger availability and usage patterns, speed limits, real-time speed, ...
    And you will be so far away from 'Range Anxiety' and so much further than the current (ridiculous) state of navigation aids. Just get in the car and speak your destination; you just handle the accelerator and steering wheel, and mind the road ;-)
     
  10. twinklejet

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    CNET Coverage of the same event

    CNET Coverage of the same Tesla press event on Tuesday:

    Tesla's path to the upgradable car

    At a press event on Tuesday, Tesla shared how it leveraged Nvidia GPU technology to make a car ready for continual upgrades.

    May 14, 2013 5:43 PM PDT

    Link: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-57584496-48/teslas-path-to-the-upgradable-car/
     
  11. scottf200

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    Looks like some/most of this will be in the BMW i3 as well.

    http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-reveals-i3-coming-this-year/
     
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    Next Software Update, Sleep Mode and Smart Cruise Control

    Future Tesla Model S features: 'Sleep' mode and a 'sensor suite' of safety features for the driver - San Jose Mercury News

    Takeaways:

    Next Software update will have 85% deep sleep

    Safety tech package will soon be available with sensors and cameras to provide the following: Pedestrian detection, collision avoidance, blind spot detection, smarter cruise control.

    ENHANCED TRIP PLANNING (on the horizon) including elevations, temperature, charging stations, head/tailwind

    This is a CORE COMPETENCY and work is happening in-house. (therefor partnership with Google is vapor for now).

     
  13. WarpedOne

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    Now, what does 85% deep sleep really mean?
     
  14. qwk

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    Goes to sleep everytime, 85% of the time? Lol JK

    85% isn't good enough, the car needs to lose the vampire draw entirely.
     
  15. Doug_G

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    Won't happen. Tesla's philosophy is to monitor the battery pack at all times.

    When idle and not in extreme heat, the Roadster's vampire losses are something like 1 ideal mile per day. They ought to be able to do something on the same level.
     
  16. djp

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    Keep in mind some of the "vampire loss" is self-discharge of the cells, which is a fact of life with LiOn batteries even if the current draw is zero.

    Self-discharge is higher at high SOC and high temperatures, but even at low SOC it doesn't go away completely.
     
  17. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    All cars have vampire loss. Tesla just displays it very clearly and right now it's higher than it should be.

    <humour>My last two electric bills show less energy use than for the same periods a year ago. I guess my vampire is feeding the grid</humour>
     
  18. dsm363

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    That would be impossible to do and still maintain the battery monitoring, right? If they can reduce it by 85% that would be a good start and make most people happy. Just like there are compromises with driving an ICE (pollution, going to gas station once a week....etc), there are compromises with driving an EV that actively monitors the pack and that wakes up quickly when the driver gets into the car. There is nothing to prevent them from working on this more in the future via software and future hardware revisions of the Model S but don't think they can get it to zero.

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    Some are losing around 8 rated miles a day I think so 15% of that would be 1.2 rated miles.



    Maybe some of this discussion should be moved to the main Vampire thread but it is interesting.
     

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