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Gas Tax Solution

Discussion in 'Cars and Transportation' started by Sgee, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. SByer

    SByer '08 #383

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    Note that gas taxes (at least in CA) and other direct use fees account for less than 30% of current road maintenance costs. Everything else comes out of the general fund. It gives me something to yell back when I'm on my bike and somebody says something about not paying for the road.
     
  2. tennis_trs

    tennis_trs 2010 2.0 Roadster Sport

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    Instead of 6000X and 250,000,000X shouldn't it be
    3*3*3*3=81X
    and
    20*20*20*20=160,000X
    which are still large factors.
     
  3. erichmond

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    I live in Oregon, one of the states proposing a per mile tax on EV's. One of the authors of the proposed tax had this to say about it a couple days ago on a radio talk show. First, any tax would exclude EV purchased or in existence before 2014. This exclusion is for the life of the vehicle. (So hurry up and buy your Tesla, those on the fence). This exclusion is to incentivize people to buy EV's. The second part is that they want it to be calculated on miles driven. They don't want a flat tax, like our neighbor Washington state is proposing.

    To editorialize, I have no problem paying my fair share for "road use", but I think it should be miles driven and weight of the car, as we know the heavier the car the more road wear. Second, how we report miles driven is a little problematic. Do we rely on people's honesty and submit a form with a declaration of miles driven. Maybe submit of photo of the odometer to show the miles driven in a year. Or do we put some layer of inspection, like we have to bring the vehicle to DMV to have the odometer inspected to verify the number of miles driven.

    In Oregon, we have to take our ICE cars to be checked by Dept of Environmental Quality every two years, maybe this would be acceptable, where we take our EV's in every two years for an odometer inspection.
     
  4. vfx

    vfx Well-Known Member

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    #24 vfx, Mar 26, 2011
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    Of course that would be a a great cost at the DMV office but tht's not even the point. The thing is though, why not do it for all vehicles?! The rarely driven collector car (or broken car) has to pay the same as the delivery/taxi/shipping vehicles that use the roads most. That's not fair. And yes and add in weight too.

    And 2014 is still waaaay too early. What will he increase 2013 OR EV sales from 500 to 800 units from the state's 140,000 new vehicles sold every year? You should write him to back off.
     
  5. doug

    doug Administrator / Head Moderator

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    A very comprehensive article for a blog. I'm glad to see that TTACs has grown-up post Robert Farago.
    The Tragedy Of The Gas Tax | The Truth About Cars
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  6. vfx

    vfx Well-Known Member

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    Well written. The comments are along party lines.
     

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