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Um, no it's not. To my recollection this is the first time that [1] a number was stated and [2] "without incentives" was stated with it.Old news.
Um, no it's not. To my recollection this is the first time that [1] a number was stated and [2] "without incentives" was stated with it.
Also note that he didn't mention anything about inflation this time.
Subject from the Conf Call.
Discuss?
I don't know, for the past 6 months whenever it was brought up, Elon would say it was going to be around $30,000. Then it start to go to 30-35 and now a definite 35,000 without credits. My wife and have no debt, except for the house, but we do have a 3 year old. That's like a $500-600 monthly payment. We both make over $45,000 a year. What about people who make less, even $35,000. I don't see how this is going to sell to the masses, people are not even buying a $25,000 EV right now. My reach for the Gen III is slowly moving away. I guess when I buy an EV it will have to be a LEAF or something like that.
Since it was always going to be a car in this price range, why does it sound like this was a shock to you?
The only thing that matters for Tesla is hitting a price point that generates sufficient demand to saturate the manufacturing they'll be able to bring online. A true mass market vehicle would be pointless, because they won't be able to produce those kinds of volumes for quite some time. Ramping up an order of magnitude or so every generation is a much more realistic goal.
I dont know...I guess because Elon was so enthusiastic about how low it was going to be and they just keep pushing the price up. $30,000 with some state credits is better than $35,000 with some state credits. It's mental game for people, like my wife, and I feel I will have to pass on getting a Tesla. Who knows though, its 3-4 years away, I was just kinda bummed.
I found it kind of interesting that they indicated that S+X will consume more than 200k units. Either that means the yearly projections are conservative, or Gen 3 is farther out than I was thinking.I believe it was 35 WITHOUT rebates? If so, that's about 27.5k before (current) federal rebate (then whatever your state has). Not arguing your ability to purchase, just not seeing how this announcement paints a worse picture than what was previously talked about.
I found it kind of interesting that they indicated that S+X will consume more than 200k units. Either that means the yearly projections are conservative, or Gen 3 is farther out than I was thinking.
Concur. But something about the tone gave me the impression that there's no wiggle room here. Prior to this hinting, I presumed the first thousands of Gen3 would qualify for the credit. Why it's interesting to me: potentially compelling aspect of getting a Sig Gen3 if they offer it.They did say "in a few years" or something like that as far as S+X using up the quota goes. So, I think they were trying to emphasize that Gen 3 will/should not use tax credits/rebates as a crutch at all to get to the $35k price point.
Even if the are still some of the 200,000 cars sold left when the Bluegenlll delivers, those will be eaten up reeeeeal fast.
I can see myself hitting that page refresh button repeatedly on an overloaded teslamotors.com at midnight on a Spring night in 2015 desperately trying to get my Gen 3 reservation in