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Just tell everyone what you want to pay and what model and I bet everyone will search for you just to make you go away.What happened to?
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Just tell everyone what you want to pay and what model and I bet everyone will search for you just to make you go away.What happened to?
You are more than welcome to read my previous posts, you follow my every post anyways.Just tell everyone what you want to pay and what model and I bet everyone will search for you just to make you go away.
I cannot tell if that was meant as a threat or if you're bragging or if you're just unwell.You've never had goons knock on your door in the middle of the night before and shake you down. I can tell! Rockville MD yea. I'd relax and shop quietly and respectfully if i were you yea.
I cannot tell if that was meant as a threat or if you're bragging or if you're just unwell.
Found one for you James!!!You are more than welcome to read my previous posts, you follow my every post anyways.
Just tell everyone what you want to pay and what model and I bet everyone will search for you just to make you go away.
Personally I judge cars by standard depreciation schedules, 20% for first year and 10-15% for each year after that.I thought about posting this question in the general For Sale section, but decided not to clutter up that space.
I'm in the market for a Model X, minimum 90D but would easily welcome a 100D. I do find a Performance model tempting - although it would be an additional $1,000/year in insurance. So tempting though. Anyhow, there's a Model X I've been tracking for the past week (5YJXCBE21GF030339) on EV-CPO that meets my color and equipment criteria and it's dipped below $70,000. 6 months ago I think that would have been unheard of.
Calling on the knowledge of the group. What do you suppose would be the selling price of the Model X? I'm thinking $65K and at a discount of $500 a day that puts my buying window at about 10 days from now? Certainly compared to other similarly options cars on EV-CPO it's not the best value, 1. high miles, 2. 1,200 miles away from me, and a shorter warranty but if the price is right maybe I GO FOR IT, or perhaps hold off? I know I'd have buyer's remorse if similarly equipped 100D or P100D dipped below $70K within my buying window of the next two months.
Thanks in advance.
All the warranties automatically drop from 4 year to 2 year after the car hits 40k miles. It doesn't mean anything except the car has more than 40k miles on it.Was hoping you would chime in JamesBrown! No free CPO extended 4 year warranty :-( It's 2 year, 100,000 miles. I do wonder if that's some sort of red flag.
Been looking at historical data. Lowest P90 with similar options $73K, but still sifting through EV-CPO data.
Found one for you James!!!
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Personally I judge cars by standard depreciation schedules, 20% for first year and 10-15% for each year after that.
That car brand new (dark silver/cream/6seat) is $93.3k with all the current Raven upgrades. Meaning a 2016 model should be about $55-60k. That car is a super late build 2016 (nov) and has AP2, so you could justify pricing it similar to a 2017. A 2017 model should be $64-67k.
You should also factor in that the included free CPO extended 4 year warranty is worth about $5k.
Was hoping you would chime in JamesBrown! No free CPO extended 4 year warranty :-( It's 2 year, 100,000 miles. I do wonder if that's some sort of red flag.
Been looking at historical data. Lowest P90 with similar options $73K, but still sifting through EV-CPO data.
This is also not true it is based on the year and or if it has 50k miles plus. Anything up too 2015 will usually only have a 2 year 100k mile warranty unless it has under 30k miles.All the warranties automatically drop from 4 year to 2 year after the car hits 40k miles. It doesn't mean anything except the car has more than 40k miles on it.
On that particular car I would personally shoot for 65k. But if you trade in a car, you only have to pay sales tax on the difference so it can save you a couple thousand more. The Tesla trade in offer was actually higher than the Carmax offer on my Rover. Trading it into Tesla saves me another $3k in sales tax. So I also factor that into my decision.
Also I do not see any P90Ds available with AP2. It looks like currently the cheapest P car with AP2 is a 2016 P100D for 80k.
I really wouldn’t worry about AP2 and getting one with AP1 will save you a good amount. FSD will not happen anytime soon. Musk has been claiming it’s release dates for awhile now but there are so many factors involved that you won’t even own the car in the 5-10 years it will be until the software will be used. So technically any Ap1 car will give u the same ability as Ap2 besides maybe changing lanes on it own without using the blinker urself. The summon feature may happen sooner than later but still no guarantee which just shows how far FSD has to go. One travels at 5mph and can’t get past regulations to be completely implemented. Elon has basically banked Tesla’s success on FSD which is why he has to make the claims he does. Even with the software advancing to level 5 which is full autonomous it would still take years before they would allow cars to be self driving largely due to insurance and determining who is at fault in an accident.Was hoping you would chime in JamesBrown! No free CPO extended 4 year warranty :-( It's 2 year, 100,000 miles. I do wonder if that's some sort of red flag.
Been looking at historical data. Lowest P90 with similar options $73K, but still sifting through EV-CPO data.
2017 90D auction resultsWas hoping you would chime in JamesBrown! No free CPO extended 4 year warranty :-( It's 2 year, 100,000 miles. I do wonder if that's some sort of red flag.
Been looking at historical data. Lowest P90 with similar options $73K, but still sifting through EV-CPO data.
are the condition ratings based on a 5.0 scale? (like Manheim uses)2017 90D auction results
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2017 100D Auction results
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2017 P100D auction results
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Yes these are Manheim. And you receive no warranty besides the 4 yr bumper to bumper and 8 yr battery and motors. However I don’t believe Tesla’s 4 yr extended warranty is worth anymore than $2k max. The 8 yr warranty covers the most expensive and most common issues besides door handles and Screen. Also to note unless you checked the car beforehand it’s impossible to say exactly what upgrades have been added. But this is ur best way to determine values including taxes. Most dealers only buy for specific buyers at auctions , not always. The more expensive the car the less likely it was bought for a specific buyer cuz most dealers at auctions top out around $50-$80K cause they have to pay for them in full. Anything above that is usually a better deal for the dealer usually dealerships can afford the higher and more profitable inventory. And what most people don’t realize is that exotic/super cars hold their value much better than any luxury/standard car. That’s why you see 6-8 yr old Ferrari still above 50% of their original value. Ferrari hold their value the most.. So when valuing an auction price include tax and around $2-$5k on purchase price for the profit of the dealer (depending on price spent) Some are much higher but most are not accepting anything less than $2k depending on the price if that. Obviously the big dealerships have lines of credit and can purchase the more expensive cars making 20% off them also depending how greedy the dealership is is how long they like to hold on too inventory. I would say that most the Tesla’s from an auction are in surprisingly in better condition than from Tesla unless Tesla put them in. Tesla doesn’t do their own loans on their cars , so the ones they put in are lease returns. In that case they are probably not in the best condition or they r desperate for money which is almost always the case for Tesla lolare the condition ratings based on a 5.0 scale? (like Manheim uses)