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General Discussion: 2018 Investor Roundtable

Discussion in 'TSLA Investor Discussions' started by AudubonB, Dec 30, 2017.

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  1. Reciprocity

    Reciprocity Active Member

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    He should change his name to moron moron.
     
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  2. hobbes

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    You have a point. I asked You You this on reddit, will report back if he answers:

     
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  3. Todd Burch

    Todd Burch Voltage makes me tingle.

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    Well I do think it’s possible for the left side to have clipped the corner of the front of the barrier (I originally read that he had hit the side of the wall).

    But he admits to having been looking at his phone (while going through a junction no less!) and trying to correct for an unexpected input.

    (Any wheel turn is unexpected when you’re looking at your phone).
     
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  4. hobbes

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    Question is how did he "correct" if he hadn´t been looking at the road. I *suspect* he might have corrected to the left because that is where he wanted to be going originally. If he did that too late, it would have made things worse.

    Also, what is unusual about this intersection (I hope I found the right one - on E65 near Florina going south as he described) is that a divided freeway with two lanes each direction turns into a non-divided road after the right lane exits (to save costs by making the following bridge narrower I guess). Might play a role in AP getting confused and maybe thinking it was going into oncoming traffic if staying left?

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  5. bdy0627

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    Wow! That's reckless. No wonder his Model 3 got smashed.
     
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    Exactly. Thank goodness this wasn't another fatal head-on collision like what happened in CA.
     
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    Here's a short video of Adam Levine trying out the Porsche Mission E. He's obviously a Porsche guy. That's one sweet looking car.
     
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  8. Starno

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    I like the back.
    Model S really need a new back.
     
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    #9729 adesai, May 26, 2018
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    I've been pretty quiet, just tracking this year - namely I think Tesla is right smack dab in the middle of a multi-year fight. Here's some Google Trends graphs:

    Elon Musk (past 5 years):

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    Tesla Model 3 (since 1/1/2017):

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    Elon Musk (since 1/1/2017):

    elon_musk_2017.png

    The biggest spike was in Feb 4th - Feb 10th of 2018 (from a general 5-year trend). That coincides with the Spaceman launch by Spacex. Worldwide demand should be much larger, like ~4-5x more, than it is based on this data (even to the astronomical heights that we think that's there), if the news coverage was better.

    Would love to see model SX3 reservation data associated to that spike on Feb 4 - Feb 10th.
     
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  11. EinSV

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    Someone who thinks climate change is not a threat doesn’t like Elon or electric cars. There’s a shocker.

    Sad that the NY Times provides a platform for this kind of garbage.

    Bret Stephens - Wikipedia

    Global warmingEdit
    Stephens is also known for his climate change contrarianism,[21] and his mainstream media appointments have given him a prominent voice on this subject.[22] Although others have called him a climate change denier,[18][23][24][25] Stephens disavows this term, and calls himself "agnostic" on the issue.[26][27]

    Stephens accepts that human-caused global warming has been occurring, but denies that the change constitutes a threat,[21] and mocks climate change activism "as hysterical alarmism"[28] that distracts the public from issues he considers more important, such as terrorism.[29] He argues that global warming activism is based on theological beliefs, rather than science, as an outgrowth of western tendencies to expect punishment for sins.[21]He has also suggested that climate change activists would be more persuasive if they were less sure of their beliefs.[23][30]

    Stephens' positions on this issue led to protests in 2013 for his Pulitzer from scientists, who pointed out that the Pulitzer citation omitted his climate change columns,[28] and to a strong backlash against his 2017 New York Times posting.[18][26][30] In reaction, the New York Times defended the "intellectual honesty and fairness" of its new columnist.[27]
     
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  12. EinSV

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    PSA: as a reminder we have a thread dedicated to addressing FUD articles.

    Articles re Tesla—Fact or Fiction?

    I expect the FUD will continue at record levels so that thread can be useful to prevent the General and Market threads from deteriorating to the point that they focus primarily on responding to FUD in the press and from the short sellers here.
     
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  13. Waiting4M3

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    OT, that Mission E also showed in the episode of Carpool Karaoke where Adam Levine and James Corden raced a Porsche SUV around the same track. They pretended that Adam almost ran into the Mission E. James Corden usually drives a Land Rover for the show, I guess Porsche is paying them to do this.
     
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    Sadly You You reminds me a little of Joshua Brown who was in the 1st fatal AP-related accident. He was also a Tesla enthusiast, had a lot of social media exposure, pushing past the edge with AP (driving hands-free), and got careless with AP that got them into trouble. Thankfully You You is OK.
     
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    I’ll provide the key quote from that article here so nobody needs to waste time reading it anymore: “The terrible idea is that electric cars are the wave of the future, at least for the mass market. Gasoline has advantages in energy density, cost, infrastructure and transportability that electricity doesn’t and won’t for decades. ” I guess that’s a conclusion you can only reach if you have never driven an electric car. If you do, you know that this quote is complete nonsense, together with the article written around it.
     
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  16. ValueAnalyst

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    There are 1.2B+ vehicles in the world, of which Model 3 reservations comprise less than 0.05%.
    If Tesla can get that to 0.1%, that's $500m in zero-cost financing.
    Each 1% equals $10B, which funds two Gigafactories.
    10% market share funds 20 Gigafactories.
    What bankwuptcy?
     
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  17. sundaymorning

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    YouYou has admitted to looking at the navigation on his phone, which likely was for a last minute decision whether he wanted to merge left or right as the freeway was splitting, indecisiveness+inattentiveness+fatigue...
     
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    Electricity transports pretty well... directly to my house even.
     
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    I've always liked Porsche also, may have to get one of these but they need to make it faster and match the supercharger network minimum. Last specs I saw on it said it wasn't much quicker than my X75D, i think it was 4.2 0-60.
     
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    Mission E has a sweet concept design, but with only an estimated 20,000 to be in production next year I doubt they will keep the concept design. It’s more likely that the mission E will end up looking like the Panamera with an “E” badge; this will help Porsche keep their cost down. The mission E also won’t have Autopilot, I wonder what their center screen or navigation will look like? It’s all concepts right now and we know how that has turned out in the past. It’s very unusual that the Mission E is slated for production next year and yet they haven’t finalized pricing or style yet. The Model 3 was 90% complete with basic pricing structures 1.3 full year before production.
     
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