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General Discussion: 2018 Investor Roundtable

Discussion in 'TSLA Investor Discussions' started by AudubonB, Dec 30, 2017.

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  1. JoaoD

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    Probably a good move, Rimac has already built a great EV, the conecpt one, that has also a great software.
    But that may not mean much, Jaguar has also partnered with Rimac in the past, Rimac made the power train for the Jaguar E-type Jaguar Worked With Rimac To Develop The All-Electric E-Type Zero, but it is unclear if anything from that collaboration has been brought to the I-Pace.
    My guess is that Rimac could make the power train for a future Porsche if they partner.
     
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    Indeed, thank you. Below are all three of the recent Model 3 reviews by Matt Shumaker. We must've been in same queue on 2016 MAR 31 to reserve our Model 3's, since early in the first video we see him visiting the Tesla store in Highland Park, Illinois to pick up his new car.



     
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  4. diatz

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    I guess we found the leaker of the photos and the video of GA4 posted on Twitter recently
     
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  5. Intl Professor

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    In Government One I mentioned them from the 60s on. Second law and Prigogine from mid 70s as well.
     
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    Not likely, Tripp was a Gigafactory employee in Sparks, Nevada.
     
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    #11447 Rarity, Jun 20, 2018
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    Short sellers better hope that not a single trade was made based on the trade secrets. This would hand Tesla a very powerful legal weapon against the entire class of trades.
     
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    That was not a leak. The video was taken from the public side of the fence. Anyone can go there and watch.
     
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    Amazing what a 9 second video can do!
     
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    Nice drone job. Question: how many engineers does it take to watch model 3 production line not moving :)
     
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    #11452 Brando, Jun 20, 2018
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    An actual educational institution. impressive
    Would you tells us which institution? thanks

    side note: life seems to violate the Second Law
    Newtonian Physics and Quantum Physics and thermodynamics - I need to do some more reading.
     
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    ..... maybe his last (drone) job?!
     
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  14. DragonWatch

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    Cars rolled onto my radar back when The Beach Boys sang their song "My 409'" and lived through the rotary engine and so forth.

    Over the years engines became standard and monopolies grew to the point where we find the same engine in several makes and models of different manufactures. The same with standard parts like headlights, etc.

    So, with the discussion of Rimac developing or having built a great EV and using the under-body (batteries & electric motors) for Jaguar and now Porsche ~ what is the point of different manufacturers other than to car body designs? And, is not Tesla positioning themselves right smack at ground zero to eat the auto industry alive? Maybe Tesla will allow Rimac some place to roam.

    Maybe the shorts have a thought or two on this subject.
     
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  16. ggr

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    No, life isn't a violation. The law is that the overall entropy of the universe increases. Energy moves from place to place all the time, and life is a mechanism for doing that. The entropy of an airconditioned room decreases, but only because the HVAC has moved the entropy outside.
     
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  17. Brando

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    World monopoly not likely. Nor do I think Musk wants. With about 7 billion people and 100,000,000 vehicles made each year, there is plenty of room for many fine companies. I hope only the fine ones work out - hope the Walmart/Amazon types fail [ie.. go Costco].
    Motorcycles - Elon seems to have zero interest in. interesting times for sure.
     
  18. neroden

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    Yes. Basically all decreases in entropy on the Earth are matched and exceeded by increased entropy in the Sun. Life depends on sunlight. As its entropy increases, the sun will, in a few bililon years, destroy the Earth. But that's OK, we'll go extinct long before that.
     
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    No. Would blow whatever cover I have. Many students hated it. I remember one, otherwise good student exclaimed, "what the hell does the second law have to do with politics!" I was preparing them for concern about global warming.

    Life is possible because of the second law as we are heat engines. There is a difference between closed and open systems as Ludwig Bertanlanffy pointed out in 1934.

    Ludwig von Bertalanffy - Wikipedia

    Popularized by no less than Erwin Schrödinger What Is Life? - Wikipedia

    We must impose on our experiences a time element because of our digestive tract, in my humble view. With a little help from some microbes, but that's their digestion at work. In a private conversation after a lecture at the unnamed university, Kip Thorne said something like: "You could express mathematically our universe as only three dimensions, but the math gets much more complicated." I didn't ask if he had tried it; obviously I haven't. I trust him. Often I can't remember if I brushed my teeth today, let alone any higher math.

    Edit: A WAG, probably you have to consider the universe a hologram as some have.
     
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    Stupid entropy. It's always in the last place you look.
     
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