JRP3
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How about just limiting reproduction? Many are already doing that voluntarily. No one is suggesting killing already existing beings.What 4B would you rather murder?
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How about just limiting reproduction? Many are already doing that voluntarily. No one is suggesting killing already existing beings.What 4B would you rather murder?
So, if we want to talk about population growth...
...it's very heavily documented that the following will bring population growth to a halt and even turn it slightly negative:
(1) educate women, so they have the skills to do something other than be pregnant all the time
(2) liberate women, so that they have the legal and economic empowerment to do something other than be pregnant all the time
(3) provide comprehensive sex education
(4) provide access to birth control
It turns out that nearly all women don't *want* to be pregnant all the time. The drive for excessive population growth comes from some (certainly not all) men -- men like ibn Saud with his hundred children and essentially-enslaved wives. Get them out of power, within a generation the population stabilizes.
This is only one of the many reasons why my primary charity is Scarleteen, the most popular sex ed website in the English language on the planet. (Another reason is that good sex is one of the great joys of life and people deserve to know how to have good sex safely and consensually. Another is that people deserve to know when they're being abused or in an unhealthy relatioship and how to escape.) If you appreciate my commentary here, consider donating to Scarleteen.
There are groups, unfortunately, which campaign to oppress women, deny access to birth control, prevent sex education, etc. I can only imagine that they are run by men like ibn Saud.
How about just limiting reproduction? Many are already doing that voluntarily. No one is suggesting killing already existing beings.
How about just limiting reproduction? Many are already doing that voluntarily. No one is suggesting killing already existing beings.
Population density on paradisaical atolls can be very high because land area is tiny. They cultivate swamp taro intensively in ponds dug to the water table which is not very deep and also have lots of breadfruit and coconuts among other produce, which they brought with them to plant when colonizing. Lots of fish harvested from the sea traditionally in the world's most spectacular sailboats. The sea is a limitless toilet. This is just one subsistence culture which is different from what evolved in easier non-island environments. And hard to find now because meddlers had to 'lift them from poverty' in other words from eden into the slum.I generally agree here, but for a given Pacific island, there is just a limited number of islanders it can sustain. This goes to JPR3's point about endless population growth. I doubt that the whole planet could sustain 8 billion Pacific Islanders living traditionally, not that I'm opposed to the lifestyle. There just aren't enough islands.
You are a wonderful human being. I don't really like the idea of having your babies - but the sentiment holds in a Rick and Morty alternate universe. How about you being the grandfather of my child?So, if we want to talk about population growth...
...it's very heavily documented that the following will bring population growth to a halt and even turn it slightly negative:
(1) educate women, so they have the skills to do something other than be pregnant all the time
(2) liberate women, so that they have the legal and economic empowerment to do something other than be pregnant all the time
(3) provide comprehensive sex education
(4) provide access to birth control
It turns out that nearly all women don't *want* to be pregnant all the time. The drive for excessive population growth comes from some (certainly not all) men -- men like ibn Saud with his hundred children and essentially-enslaved wives. Get them out of power, within a generation the population stabilizes.
This is only one of the many reasons why my primary charity is Scarleteen, the most popular sex ed website in the English language on the planet. (Another reason is that good sex is one of the great joys of life and people deserve to know how to have good sex safely and consensually. Another is that people deserve to know when they're being abused or in an unhealthy relatioship and how to escape.) If you appreciate my commentary here, consider donating to Scarleteen.
There are groups, unfortunately, which campaign to oppress women, deny access to birth control, prevent sex education, etc. I can only imagine that they are run by men like ibn Saud.
Robots.Further shrinking the youth population further exaggerates the problem.
This makes me wonder how long until the legacy manufacturers and their dealers really go at it in a public spat. Direct to consumer is clearly the future. There won't be margins for this extra layer of fat to be competitive in the future.
If Tesla could deliver 800 M3 per day to the US, it would be in range to beat out Camry as the number 1 best selling car in US.
Some options:Understood, however it's a change from the most horrible pollution imaginable to the second most.
How about just limiting reproduction?
The sea is a limitless toilet.
Ah, as in "the solution to pollution is dilution" ...
I remember reading somewhere ..(Freek economics maybe) that one of the best tool to free woman from the above is a TV. Once woman see that there is another way to live change happens.So, if we want to talk about population growth...
...it's very heavily documented that the following will bring population growth to a halt and even turn it slightly negative:
(1) educate women, so they have the skills to do something other than be pregnant all the time
(2) liberate women, so that they have the legal and economic empowerment to do something other than be pregnant all the time
(3) provide comprehensive sex education
(4) provide access to birth control
It turns out that nearly all women don't *want* to be pregnant all the time. The drive for excessive population growth comes from some (certainly not all) men -- men like ibn Saud with his hundred children and essentially-enslaved wives. Get them out of power, within a generation the population stabilizes.
This is only one of the many reasons why my primary charity is Scarleteen, the most popular sex ed website in the English language on the planet. (Another reason is that good sex is one of the great joys of life and people deserve to know how to have good sex safely and consensually. Another is that people deserve to know when they're being abused or in an unhealthy relatioship and how to escape.) If you appreciate my commentary here, consider donating to Scarleteen.
There are groups, unfortunately, which campaign to oppress women, deny access to birth control, prevent sex education, etc. I can only imagine that they are run by men like ibn Saud.
I agree about personal actions, having lived most of my life totally fossil fuel free, even to the point of cooking with firewood, on sailboats.
You reveal yourself with that comment. I neither said nor implied any such notion. As others have pointed out the key to reduced birthrates comes with education, proper healthcare, and economic improvement. Can't imagine why anyone would be against those things because of some odd notion that more people using planetary resources would be better.Ah, EUGENICS! Only the progeny of the elite should be allowed to survive!
What part of the cycle of each do you fail to understand?You think combusting wood (hydrocarbons) is pure, but combusting fossil fuels (also hydrocarbons) is evil? What emission controls did you use on your firewood conflagrations?