RobStark
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This is for 250k unit capacity.
Maybe cost to go from 250k to 500k is less but maybe not. Maybe $4B total.
But this includes battery factory and auto factory, so less than half of US cost.
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This is for 250k unit capacity.
Maybe cost to go from 250k to 500k is less but maybe not. Maybe $4B total.
But this includes battery factory and auto factory, so less than half of US cost.
Introducing SR w/ PUP before LR or SR w/o PUP is probably a sensible move. It means that the only real change for GA is in the battery itself, versus lots of interior / etc changes. So that's probably the SR we see at end of 2018 is SR w/ PUP, effectively starting at 40k.
Depending on the demand for LR w/o PUP (if anything w/o PUP is pushed to 2019), we might even see them start configuring and producing SR w/ PUP early enough in Q4 (perhaps November) that a decent number can be delivered with the 7500 credit, which will of course improve the number of SR w/ PUP orders since that "pays for" the PUP and then some.
Depending on the demand for LR w/o PUP (if anything w/o PUP is pushed to 2019), we might even see them start configuring and producing SR w/ PUP early enough in Q4 (perhaps November) that a decent number can be delivered with the 7500 credit, which will of course improve the number of SR w/ PUP orders since that "pays for" the PUP and then some.
Yeah, I could see that and if it were the first two weeks of Jan, then I'm ok with that. But then if that's the case, I don't understand why Tesla wouldn't go back after the ramp up (which is now) and allow those first day holders to order whatever version they want...it shows they are so power hungry for high options cars just to show high gross margin to appease Wall Street.....which is iconic because the whole point is to not rely on it.....sigh...hahaha.
Just checked the iPhone stock app, and nothing but negative headlines about Tesla. How can anyone really trust this app for actual balanced financial news? It is a little scary that we have to be on such guard of blatant manipulation and bias, and this goes for any stock or company. This is not a healthy trend and I can only predict a further backlash as this continues to be exposed.
There will be profit ahead for any news organization or apps that are brave enough to be based in objectively.
They haven't even built a single SR pack or non-PUP car yet. The assembly lines aren't ready for that. It isn't that they are power hungry, it is that they are being smart on where they spend their limited resources.
mutle
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For the next major iOS update Apple wants to switch the news provider to Apple News, which at least has a much broader range of news sources than Yahoo: Stocks in iOS 12: Everything you need to know!
Seems like from the call that they were chatting up the analysts about the fact that they went from 3% to 15% soon and 25% by Q1....lots of focus on that.....the only time the 35k was mentioned was by Elon and that they haven't made it yet. Not one analysts even asked where it is.....its like they think the m3 which is from 50-78k is mass market now. No, it's just enough people have the money, not that it reaches the mass market.
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What is "mass market"? Is it based on a price range? is it based on a volume of cars sold?
That's a freaking cop out which has been discussed a lot over the years. TESLA DEFINED IT IN 2016.
anticitizen13.7
Not posting at TMC after 9/17/2018
It should be a good Autumn harvest and then a very good New Year if Tesla keeps on moving like this.
So my take away from the conference call was big competition is on the way and to short Tesla. I’ve got 66,000 burning a whole in my pocket.
Should I buy Amazon or BMW with my proceeds if I want the winning horse in the Autonomous EV space?
Just kidding: I would like to take a long position on short shorts companies if Elon is going to deplete inventory in that sector. Reccomendations?
Should I buy Amazon or BMW with my proceeds if I want the winning horse in the Autonomous EV space?
Just kidding: I would like to take a long position on short shorts companies if Elon is going to deplete inventory in that sector. Reccomendations?
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skitown
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Being an "expert" in Tesla has proven to me, without a doubt, just how bad "journalism" is these days. Definitely #fakenews. I see no reason to believe that it's not just as bad on all other subjects. Pick one. We really are in trouble.
It really depends on the writer but sadly, reputable places also have shitty writers they continue to keep in stead. What's that phrase that one drop spoils the entire thing . #fakenews
X Fan
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"it didn't cause a single Swedish multimillionaire to move"
Don't agree, marginal rates do drive behavior.....ie numerous Euro athletes gravitate to lower tax locations.
Re: Swedish millionaires: Bjorn Borg lives in Monte Carlo, many retired Swedish hockey players live in North America.
As I'm sure you know that when tax rates were confiscatory in the U.S., tax policy allowed a lot more business deductions and free stuff for executives.
It's fascinating how much of what Tesla does hides in plain sight, buried in FUD.
Case in point -- Tesla's AI/self-driving chip that will have 10X the power of the industry leading chip from Nvidia.
It has been obvious that Tesla was going forward with this project, and every reason to believe the outcome would be stellar given the talent Tesla brought to the effort:
Case in point -- Tesla's AI/self-driving chip that will have 10X the power of the industry leading chip from Nvidia.
It has been obvious that Tesla was going forward with this project, and every reason to believe the outcome would be stellar given the talent Tesla brought to the effort:
How well can it mine bitcoin???!!
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