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My other high risk stock isn Cytori Theraputics (CYTX). Stem Cell therapies from fat cells. Their platform is applicable to many different ailments they have a big potential if it takes off. Key words being "if it takes off". Check them out if you like. I have more CYTX that I do in TSLA...
 
How does an IPO actually work? Is it all bought by big brokerages that then put it on the market like a regular stock, its price going up and down from the start like any other stock? Or is there a period during which the public can buy the stock at the initial IPO offering price?

That article says stay away. But I have no idea if the author knows what he's talking about. "Green Tech Media" sounds like a name that should mean they are pro-green. But I know nothing about them. On the other side, I like Elon Musk because he's the man behind my car.
 
My other high risk stock isn Cytori Theraputics (CYTX). Stem Cell therapies from fat cells. Their platform is applicable to many different ailments they have a big potential if it takes off. Key words being "if it takes off". Check them out if you like. I have more CYTX that I do in TSLA...
I'm done with early stage med stocks, I definitely can NOT pick them :cursing:
 
I'm done with early stage med stocks, I definitely can NOT pick them :cursing:

I'd never pick early stage in other industries, because I simply don't understand those industries as well as medical and pharma. Gotta stay with what you know.

(And accept you might lose it all ... but ONVO is up over 100% from when I bought in less than 3 months ago. It has potential to go big, be acquired, or face plant. Dunno which of the three it will be. Successful trials will be the tipping point. I may be here in future months saying 'I should have sold when I could.')
 
PRI's Marketplace show just did a nice piece about IPOs, in advance of FB's.: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/facebook-set-go-ipo-roadshow
Thanks for that. What they leave off is how the stock then reaches ordinary investors. If the big buyers are happy with their investment, it may take time before they decide to sell some of their holdings. Or are some of the big buyers brokerages who intend to sell immediately, hoping that the market price is above what they paid?

(Note: I really don't understand the market, which is why I only have tiny amounts of a handfull of stocks, and my real investments are in funds that I mostly just buy and hold for income or long-term appreciation.)
 
My green stock portfolio looks like this

TSLA
AONE (shorting)
ZNN (shorting)
PC (Panasonic)
ATK (munitions manufacturer, but have been doing some things into making ammunition more environmentally friendly- kind of a WTF moment, but if you really look into it, this does make sense)
WFM (whole foods)
 
Anybody getting in on the Facebook PreIPO? Hoping it triggers at $35 a share

Are you kidding- Facebook?
At $35 that means that it's valued on par with either Pepsi, Glaxo-smith Kline, Merck, and more than Goldman sacks, or more than Ford and GM COMBINED.

You have to ask what does Facebook offer?
1. Easily accessed information. Is this info worth $30-45/person
2. What is the expansion or other markets?
3. Will it be like Myspace?
4. Privacy concerns
5. Generation Y maturing
6. Infrastructure

My answers to these questions are
1. The information which can be accessed elsewhere is not worth $30-45, or will advertisers be willing to be pay such a premium to access information- my back of envelope calculation says the average they can make per year per person is $0.30. The value of $30/ person is not there
2. Facebook is saturated now- they can expand, but to where? Facebook phone? Charging people? Not everyone is going to use it
3. Look at Myspace, it was big, facebook came along, not Myspace is essentially dead. My opinion is the same thing will happen to facebook, some new fad will come along
4. Facebook is becoming dangerous in terms of privacy to the point where employers are using it as a screening tool- better just to to have it
5. Generation Y is using it, but once they mature and have kids, they will spend less and less time on it and future generations will think of it as "their parents" social media
5. FB infrastructure is server farms- highly devalued in a few years, it's not land, factories, equipment which lasts years. Servers are obsolete after only a few years
 
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Are you kidding- Facebook?
At $35 that means that it's valued on par with either Pepsi, Glaxo-smith Kline, Merck, and more than Goldman sacks, or more than Ford and GM COMBINED.

Sadly that is not what the stock market is about any more. It is about what people *think* your company is worth.

Look at AAPL, they make toys. Surely they are not worth more than Exxon Mobil. I hate gas as much as a lot of you but you have to admit it is worth A LOT!
 
Sadly that is not what the stock market is about any more. It is about what people *think* your company is worth.

Look at AAPL, they make toys. Surely they are not worth more than Exxon Mobil. I hate gas as much as a lot of you but you have to admit it is worth A LOT!

I agree, but in the end, people get burned by valuing stocks without any basis. My first investment was Griffin Gaming, valued high and got burned. My thinking was "Casinos always make money"

At least AAPL has a planned obsolescence built in and people will want to buy more when theirs breaks, gets old, or gets filled up

Facebook on the other hand is used by 1/7 the world population currently- they growth is kind of limited going forward. I would peg the company value around 13 billion- max. Currently they have a P/E ratio of 80 which is insane!

If you really want to see something scary about the stock market, look up the rate of people going into 401 Ks and the rate of the stock market increasing from the early 80's going forward. I'm guessing when the baby boomers retire and start hitting their 401 Ks for cash the stock market is going to go down or remain stagnant.

My philosophy now is the stock market is a suckers game (I liken it back to the comic book explosion in the mid 90's)- buy a stock that you feel is going to be "popular", find a sucker to buy it for more, make your money and run. Economics/how good the business is run doesn't mean as much for the stock market now
 
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