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Genesis GV60 comparison to Tesla 3/Y

TL;DR - neither is better.

I’m due to collect my (white/white/19”) Y next week but I became interested in the Genesis GV60 when it was announced some time ago and some of the initial reviews have been very favourable. I finally had a test drive of one yesterday - the two motor Sport version. I’m still going ahead with buying the Y but hopefully if I do decide I prefer the GV60 I shouldn’t lose too much selling the Y…and Tesla actually gave me the best price on my 2020 Model 3.

I appreciate this forum is mainly people who already have a Tesla or have ordered one but in case there are people here trying to decide between different EVs, I hope the comparison below helps. Of course it is all subjective. I am not a Tesla fanboy. I fully appreciate what Tesla has done in spearheading the development of EVs, but I do not workshop at the altar of Elon. :)

Efficiency - no contest. On the exact same journey as the test drive, my Model 3 easily averages at least 4 miles/kwh. I would expect a Y to get slightly less. The GV60 got 3. This has pretty much been the case with every EV I’ve test driven, Tesla gets this so right.

Refinement - GV60 is easily better than my 2020 Model 3 and a MIC Model Y which I’ve been test driving recently. It just has a feeling of solidity about it. All the touchpoints are nice and it is so much quieter than the Model 3 (and the Model Y). The test car did have the B&O sound system which has active noice cancelling which might have helped. Although the ride was firm it was more forgiving than either Tesla.

Performance and handling - the test car was the mid range Sport model, on paper slower 0-60 accelerating than any 3 or Y but in real world overtaking there was little in it. As expected the 3 handled better and I would say the Y probably also handled better though at the expense of a harsher ride than the GV60. Annoying that the GV60 required one pedal driving to be switched on every time it was started. I was surprised to find I did quite like the ability to vary the rate of regen depending on the type of road.

Driver Aids - an easy win for the GV60. It read all speed limits and adjusted speed appropriately in a section of roadworks where the Test doesn’t even see the speed limits. Proper blind spot monitoring, not a video image in part of the screen that is obscured by your arms when driving. Head up display was very good. 360 degree cameras, reversing out of bay cross traffic warnings etc.

Infotainment - no outright winner here. The B&O Sound system was hugely impressive, much better than the Tesla. The GV60 relies on wired Apple Car Play for things like Spotify etc. With regard to Sat Nav, I preferred the head up display on the GV60 rather than having to glance left and down to the Tesla screen and hope that it’s zoomed in on a complicated junction. But the fact that Tesla uses Google maps so you can type in the name of any business is very useful. You might be able to do this with the GV60 but it didn’t have its Connected Services set up so not sure. But of course, the Tesla screen is unbeatable for YouTube, Netflix etc (except for when Theater launches with a blank screen and the only way to fix it is to change the onscreen language, reboot, change the language back again and reboot again).

User interface - I really dislike the Tesla UI. Too much of the screen is dedicated to showing me what’s around the car, wheelie bins, dancing traffic lights. I’ve got windows and mirrors for that. Warning messages with tiny grey on black text etc. They could make this so much better. The GV60 is almost the opposite - so many buttons! Sometimes buttons are a good thing, especially for things like climate control but the GV60 does seem to have gone overboard. But everything that I need as a a driver is there and is clear. The demo car had cameras and screens instead of door mirrors - not a fan but normal mirrors come as standard.

Space - another win for Tesla - especially the Model Y. I was surprised at how little leg room there was in the back of the GV60 given how cavernous the same platform Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 are. There is some under boot storage and a small frunk but they’re tiny compared to the 3/Y.

Other stuff - Tesla gets a lot of the other stuff right in a way that other manufacturers don’t. I can’t find anywhere in the GV60 user manual which tells you how to switch off internal alarm sensors if you need to leave a dog in the car for a while so the chances of being able to do that AND leave the climate control on are probably nil! The GV60 has nothing like Sentry mode. Even though it has keyless entry and exit you still need to carry an old fashioned fob, although that might change if Apple Keys is implemented. With Tesla, you get in the car, put it in drive and go; with the GV60 you have to press a Start/Stop button - if I’m getting in the car it’s highly likely I’m going to be driving it. I love the idea of Vehicle To Load on the GV60 and the chilled seats really do work better than I thought they would. Pin To Drive makes the Tesla almost theft proof, the GV60 has finger print recognition but I think this is to recall seat position etc, not a security device.

Price - the basic Y is now £57990. The single motor GV60 starts at £47,005, twin motor starts at £53,605, the higher performance version starts at £65,405. This includes the same basic cruise control and auto steer as the Y. Adding a sunroof adds £1,200. There are further options available and if you spec the mid range Sport to the max, you’re looking at £63k or £75k for the top of the range.

I really wanted one of them to be better than the other, but they’re not, they’re just very different to each other.


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Supercharging? How long to get one? Pouch cells?

some of the initial reviews have been very favourable
Reviewers without an axe to grind are rare. Any "professional motor journalist" seems to talk nonsense & are mostly against any cars that don't result in advertising spend or fun junkets. Can't see a Bjorn Nyland review. General Korean tech review -
 
Supercharging? How long to get one? Pouch cells?


Reviewers without an axe to grind are rare. Any "professional motor journalist" seems to talk nonsense & are mostly against any cars that don't result in advertising spend or fun junkets. Can't see a Bjorn Nyland review. General Korean tech review -
Bjorn really liked Genesis by the way. he had review in Germany if I am not mistaken
 
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UkNorthampton

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Bjorn really liked Genesis by the way. he had review in Germany if I am not mistaken
Quick search doesn't find it.

More EVs, the better. I just prefer Tesla's engineering way. I really think pouch cells are to be avoided.

Reviews will focus on the car today, rather than long-term. Few are unbiased.

I can see why people don't choose Tesla, for many reasons. If a Genesis or anything else displaces an ICE new car purchase, that's great. Over time, it's replacing local pollution that is very important to me and climate change as well. But for a new EV driver, Ev is just a better experience, with just 2 downers, high initial price (saving on fuel, service later) and charging/range.

Rest more than makes up for having to learn the ropes or a little more planning.

It won't be long before parts and eventually fuel for ICE will be the problem. Parts will hit first as without a large number of ICE car sales, the more profitable parts supply will dry up as suppliers won't survive on small volumes/high costs (including pensions).
 
Quick search doesn't find it.

More EVs, the better. I just prefer Tesla's engineering way. I really think pouch cells are to be avoided.

Reviews will focus on the car today, rather than long-term. Few are unbiased.

I can see why people don't choose Tesla, for many reasons. If a Genesis or anything else displaces an ICE new car purchase, that's great. Over time, it's replacing local pollution that is very important to me and climate change as well. But for a new EV driver, Ev is just a better experience, with just 2 downers, high initial price (saving on fuel, service later) and charging/range.

Rest more than makes up for having to learn the ropes or a little more planning.

It won't be long before parts and eventually fuel for ICE will be the problem. Parts will hit first as without a large number of ICE car sales, the more profitable parts supply will dry up as suppliers won't survive on small volumes/high costs (including pensions).
I cannot find it as well.

but I clearly remember I have seen it in the end of the 2021.
I was watching like more or less every video from him at the time as making decision, and if not mistaken, it was during his trip to Germany where local german dude let him to check it out...

or maybe I am wrong and it was Nio and Hongqi at that time...
 
Excellent review - I had my eye on ev6 for a while - the length 175 inch is better for me - I was at a dealer and was told no lease deals maybe $900 per month ? - kea in general reliable - but there might be one mechanic just trained to fix it - do to low volume and only sold in 3-4 states in us so far - Alan g
 
The GV60 Performance in Canada right now costs $8k less than a Model Y LR ($79k for the GV60 vs $87k for the Model Y) and the GV60 has quilted nappa leather, ventilated front seats, a gauge cluster, Apple CarPlay / Android Auto, heads up display, a whack of other stuff, and still has similar acceleration numbers etc

Now if we're talking a Model Y LR before all the price hikes, that's a different story
 

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