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GenIII, "We really need to find a better name for it"

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by gjunky, Aug 4, 2012.

  1. gjunky

    gjunky Waiting for the Model ☰

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    Elon said it during the last earnings call, we really should find a better name for the GenIII car. Here it goes then. Assuming we are staying withe the "Model -" type naming, I think it might make sense to call the GenIII line of cars the Model M.

    We can then have variants:
    Model MS = Sedan
    Model MX = Crossover
    Model MT = Truck

    The question would be the next Roadster which I will guess gets it's own letter in Model R
     
  2. TEG

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    "Gen3" (AKA "Bluestar") targets BMW 3 series.
    Maybe just shorten it to G3 ?

    G3S=Sedan
    G3R=Roadster
    G3X=Crossover
    G3T=Truck

    3 letter model names are common, for instance:
    Mazda Rx8
    Nissan GTR
    Subaru WRX
    Cadillac CTS
    Acura NSX
    Honda CRZ
    Suzuki SX4
    Lincoln MKZ
    Mercedes CLS
    VW GLI
    Volvo S60
    etc...
     
  3. raymond

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    Too cryptic in my opinion. Now that we already have the Model S and Model X Tesla might want to find something that doesn't break with that (short) tradition. The roadster being called a Roadster is OK, and then new roadster can also simply be called Roadster.

    For the foreseeable future Tesla doesn't need a dozen names - let's start with filling that 400,000/year NUMMI plant capacity. The Gen3 being the mass-market car, I still think Model T would be great.

    Who knew - I didn't - that the predecessor to the Ford Model T was the Ford Model S?
     
  4. AnOutsider

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    Been discussed on the boards quite a bit (ford model s). I'm still in favor of Model T myself.
     
  5. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    Does Ford still have a copyright on Model T somehow? It's been over 100 years though.
     
  6. mklcolvin

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    How about Model C (for compact - or cool)?
     
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    You know, I think that car companies these days like to use short alphanumeric (nonsensical) names, just so that they don't end up with names like Prizm, Equus, or Yaris. Sounds like characters in an old Godzilla movie!:tongue: But you also end up with bad naming schemes like the entire Lincoln MKzzz lineup. That said, I do miss some of the more evocative nameplates like Legend, Continental, and even "Wagoneer".

    Also, I just thought of this one - Tesla Model J (named after the Duesenberg Model J of 1928 - best car of it's time).
     
  8. ryanjm

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    I posted in the other Gen3 thread but will chime in here too. I think Model T is too closely identified with Ford. I'd suggest Model E, which can stand for both Economy (internally) and Everyone (for marketing purposes).
     
  9. PeterW

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    Isn't that the point?

    The Ford Model T was the first truly mass market car.

    The Tesla Model T will be the modern equivalent for EV's.
     
  10. raymond

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    The Model C and Model E for me are too much linked with the Mercedes C-class and E-class.

    Naming cars is not all that easy in an international market. The Mazda MR2 (french pron. "em-er-deux", sounding like "merde"); Chevy Nova (no-va = won't go); Ford Pinto (something with small genitals in Spanish?) and the list goes on and on.

    After the Roadster and Model S and X, made-up names would not be a logical follow-up. Keeping with the Model # moniker maximizes the reputation carry-over from the Gen II to Gen III.

    One other option would be to go with a "Model S2" (smaller S), "Model S3" (nod to BMW), etc. They could keep the S for sedans, X for cross-overs and e.g. a C for a Coupe.

    I guess it's time for a focus group!
     
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    Most of America is dumb. If Tesla puts out a Model T I would almost guarantee that the average consumer would think, "Oh, Ford revived the Model T?" Tesla doesn't want that to happen, obviously.
     
  12. stopcrazypp

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    I put my vote in for Model T also (association with Ford be damned).

    They recently put in an application for the trademark in late 2009 (most likely as response to Tesla's application for Model S in early 2009, given Ford used to own that trademark too, since the car before the Model T was the Model S). As I mentioned in a previous discussion, Ford has yet to prove commercial usage of the trademark (they can't unless they make a new car with the Model T name) and the deadline to do so is early 2013. I think Tesla has a decent chance of taking the trademark if they wanted to.
    http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/9194-Gen-III-Range-amp-Pricing-Speculation?p=168503&viewfull=1#post168503

    I don't think that's much of an issue. Model S could have been linked to the Mercedes S-class but so far there's no issue.

    This reminds me of the Audi e-tron (which has a similar alternate meaning in French).
     
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    Um, er. MR2 is is Toyota product, not Mazda.
     
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    Is *is* Toyota? Ha! So there! :)
     
  15. gjunky

    gjunky Waiting for the Model ☰

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    I thought modem M for Mid-Sized car and keep the Model C for an even smaller compact later.
     
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    personally i really like those, i think they flow nicely. i am not to opinionated about the names though.
     
  17. Norbert

    Norbert TSLA will win

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    #17 Norbert, Aug 4, 2012
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    I like this too. But shorten it even more to:

    3S=Sedan
    3R=Roadster
    3X=Crossover
    3T=Truck

    Yes? No?
     
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    Norbert TSLA will win

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    Was it a success? ;) I'll take it as a confirmation of the idea. Maybe its far enough in the past to be do-able nevertheless. :)
     

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