That's true but the driver did not do that and had to deal with the situation he was in.
Personally I always have automatic wipers turned on which gives me all options after.
Much better situation to be in.
Germany Rules on Using Tesla Screen Wiper Controls
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That's true but the driver did not do that and had to deal with the situation he was in.
Personally I always have automatic wipers turned on which gives me all options after.
Much better situation to be in.
I use AP always when it rains. The only issue I ever had was to turn it on when you have heavy rain but I believe that issue is gone now too. AP in heavy rain is much better than a driver.
That guy is fully serious
I had many situations in heavy thunderstorms rain on a German Autobahn were to switch AP on if it wasn't already was the best and safest option to start with.
Works perfectly fine. Try it!
If you still don't feel well its time to recognize it is you and not the vehicle that does not feel well.
Voice control works very well here in Germany with the German language too and is an excellent alternative to manual controls.
Knightshade
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it's not.
Nothing on the car self-learns- behavior changes only come with software updates (or manual setting changes obviously).
Individual cars self-learning anything would make diagnostics pretty nightmarish honestly- is there actually a problem when the car does something weird, or did it just learn wrong?
This is driver error and the courts acknowledged that and took away his license because he wasn’t driving safely.
when you get into a car it is your responsibility to know how to adjust the wipers turn on and off the defroster and turn on and off the headlights safely. The Tesla touchscreen is no more odd than a lot of new cars that have five stocks you have to choose from with different ways of controlling each stock. The Tesla touchscreen is no more odd than a lot of new cars that have five stocks you have to choose from with different ways of controlling each stock.
put a person who has never used a car into either setup and without practice and they will be dangerous. With practice they will adjust the wipers without issue.
when you get into a car it is your responsibility to know how to adjust the wipers turn on and off the defroster and turn on and off the headlights safely. The Tesla touchscreen is no more odd than a lot of new cars that have five stocks you have to choose from with different ways of controlling each stock. The Tesla touchscreen is no more odd than a lot of new cars that have five stocks you have to choose from with different ways of controlling each stock.
put a person who has never used a car into either setup and without practice and they will be dangerous. With practice they will adjust the wipers without issue.
I am totally with you on this. Please, Tesla, please....
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it". For the memorable past, wiper controls have pretty much been standard. I believe, imho, they have become pretty much a reflex action, the same as directional signals, and don't need to be refined or complicated.
This is totally not true. Some have the stock on the right some on the left. Some you lift up and down some you turn. And some cars have a knob on the dash. Their is standardized controls if you only buy one brand but between brands you need to learn to use the controls safely before you start driving.
This is true for headlights. Brights. And windshield defogger. Practice those before the car is put into drive.
navguy12
Member
The AP system was better than a driver in heavy rain until about 12 months ago.
Since then, it has become a little too eager to disengage (with the screaming red steering wheel drama) under conditions that it used to just shrug off.
Case in point: this past Tuesday afternoon (04 Aug 2020) while on a round trip between Trenton ON and Kingston ON via the HWY 401, in both directions, when driving in heavy rain, the AP system disengaged with (typical) very little notice.
Backpacker42
Member
None of the "solutions" mentioned have worked for me - Auto, voice command, stalk button. They work 90% of the time, but this is a safety issue. It needs to work 100% of the time. Auto has improved with updates, but still unreliable. Voice surprisingly seems to always interpret correctly - e.g. display shows exactly what I said - like "Wipers On", but occasionally claims it does not understand, or does not execute, or takes way to long, or sets to low speed when I need high. Button always works, but always at wrong speed so now I have to frantically punch the button to keep the wiper going at too slow a speed, or adjust wiper speed - sometimes when I'm in a critical situation (fast heavy traffic, windy road, car in front just side swiped barrier or another car because road is suddenly slick and people are slamming on brakes), and the only reliable way to increase speed is working a small display that I can't read at a glance. And that with 2/3 of the (well built, beautiful!) screen real estate worthless to me since I typically don't use Nav, and the car icon is totally useless clutter. Not acceptable.
The main issue I see with this is that it requires your attention to both sides of the driver. The screen and the scroll wheel.
Vines
Active Member
No, you only press the wiper stalk button button then roll the left mouse wheel upwards. Not one second taken off the road.
Vines
Active Member
I have submitted this in many ways, tweeted Elon Ect. Maybe someone with an ear at the company will pick this up.
Zigzagmolly
Member
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That scroll wheel is my FAVORITE thing in the entire car. It is to turn my music louder and stops the reminder to touch the steering wheel. I use it constantly EVEN when I don't have my music on full blast. I just roll up and then down. I live in Zigzag up on Mt. Hood and we get 120 inches of rain per year. Even though I don't think the auto speed of the wipers is appropriate, that scroll wheel needs to stay exactly as it is. Period!!!
RedModel3
Member
I guess that's your experience, but my experience has been that in a heavy downpour, AP just flat out gives up an I am SOL. Perhaps it has to do with the quality of lane markings on our interstate system vs. the Autobahn.That guy is fully serious
I had many situations in heavy thunderstorms rain on a German Autobahn were to switch AP on if it wasn't already was the best and safest option to start with.
Works perfectly fine. Try it!
If you still don't feel well its time to recognize it is you and not the vehicle that does not feel well.
Voice control works very well here in Germany with the German language too and is an excellent alternative to manual controls.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
In ~2 years of use (and I use it a lot) I've only had AP turn off entirely due to heavy rain once, and it was REALLY REALLY heavy, like even a human should probably be pulling over heavy.
That said, I have NoA turn off (drop back to regular AP) moderately often in even medium level rain
That said, I have NoA turn off (drop back to regular AP) moderately often in even medium level rain
He's talking about changing the function for 3 seconds only. I think most of us can live without the volume control for that long.
I've had the car for a year now, so I'm good at controlling the wipers and everything else. But I did struggle the first few days. For example, I went in a car wash the first week and the auto wipers came on. In my rush to shut them off, I touched the trunk open button, and went through the wash with it open.
Vines suggestion is excellent and trivial to implement. Tesla should do it immediately!!
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