Germany will require electric vehicle charging at every gas station

[toolman335]

I flew from Boston to Hawaii for that price last summer. Wow that's expensive. That's a 5,000 mile flight.
This also changed to an international trip, so I'm confused. You might not be getting into Canada this summer.

 

[one2many]

OK folks, yes you can flights that are cheap in the US, in Germany it can be
very expense. In vacation time it can be like xmas or thanksgiven . So it really
does not matter, most folks with kids travel with cars. So now back to the main theme,
gas stations with plugs or not.

 

[SammichLover]

OK folks, yes you can flights that are cheap in the US, in Germany it can be
very expense.

Yeah. SSonnentag went onto a different path there, OT, away from Europe discussion.

So, getting back OT Germany will require electric vehicle charging at every gas station

 

[one2many]

I really do not think it goes far enough.
Require solar panels on all new buildings,
10kwh battery, plugs for all underground parking
(at least 10%) and a real EOL for diesel cars.

 

[Just a Reader]

OK folks, yes you can flights that are cheap in the US, in Germany it can be
very expense. ...

Pardon me - what?

Some of my flights this year:
Frankfurt - Tenerife, return, about 200 € (that's 4.5 hours each way)
Frankfurt - Berlin, return, with Lufthansa 210 € (cheaper than a regular train ticket 2nd class)
A colleague of mine took a flight from (Frankfurt) Hahn to Avignon and the coach fare from Frankfurt to Hahn (about 120 km) was higher than the ticket price for the flight to Avignon.

Prior to Corona flights were so dirt cheap that I really wondered how that was supposed to be viable as a business.

 

[one2many]

I just said it can be expense and most of the folks I
know take the car when they have kids. If it was cheaper and
more convenient then you fly.
Still has not much to do with plugs at gas stations.

 

[Dan203]

Seems unnecessary to me. Seems to be the type of thing that someone who doesn't own an EV and assumes you need to go somewhere to "fill up" would write.

 

[one2many]

My new job is not reachable in my Leaf. My Tesla no issue round trip.
Many gas stations here have coffee bars so you may want to get a coffee
and charge. If you work there it would be handy as well. There are
a lot of cars coming out with small batteries.

 

[SammichLover]

If you work there it would be handy as well.

This thought you keep bringing up puzzles the hell out of me. I don't see how that is any sort of meaningful solution or money well spent. I'm not sure what the appropriate Deutsch idiom would be, but here it is "fart in a windstorm".

 

[one2many]

When you get old you will fart like me, windstorm or not.
When people say they charge at home or work or both,
why not a gas station worker?

 

[SammichLover]

When people say they charge at home or work or both,
why not a gas station worker?

Because the idea is this is a public charger, and it is an extremely small number of people in the scheme of things. It makes no sense for targeting "employees at work" in such a limited scope as just gas stations.

 

[one2many]

Well we will agree to disagree on this. More plugs are a
good moral sign, and there is no ideal solution. The company
I work for has 100's of plugs in the US. When I asked for plugs
here they said "no soup for you". It just slows adoption.

 

[SammichLover]

Well we will agree to disagree on this. More plugs are a
good moral sign, and there is no ideal solution. The company
I work for has 100's of plugs in the US. When I asked for plugs
here they said "no soup for you". It just slows adoption.

Employee charging facilities just is a very different thing from setting up "on the go" public charging facilities. One where L2 makes a lot of sense more sense than at "gas stations", too.