Most of our friends here think that you own the best car in the world despite all the bugs and your disappointment and inconvenience. It's very hard to be Tesla fan.
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Getting a bit cheesed off with software glitches
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MashinBenzin
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In three months I haven’t used the range calculation once. But it would be no bother to set the destination on the crap nav, remember where the SC stop is and then go into CarPlay for everything else, occasionally flicking back to check the built in nav.
I think there's a lot of rose-tinted vision about the software in legacy cars. I sold a 9 year old Golf GTI to buy my model Y, and I occasionally drive an XC90 that's < 2 years old. The software in the XC90 is more advanced than it was in the Golf, but not by that much. The sat nav is crap, makes dumb choices, map data updates once in a blue moon and the UI doesn't respond quickly or in an intuitive way, and obviously the overall software package is basically navigation, car settings and nothing else. Legacy car makers are very comfortable in their rut and without Tesla putting pressure on them a car in 2030 would still be ICE with a clunky screen like a smartphone from 2015.
In comparison I look at the release notes for Tesla and I can't believe the number of features that have been added during 2022. I do get the irritation from the bugs (had my first experience with wipers that auto activate as you drive under every street light the other night) and it'd be nice if that didn't happen. I will be reading release notes and checking others' experiences online before I accept any software updates, but overall I'd much rather have it this way than the legacy way.
In comparison I look at the release notes for Tesla and I can't believe the number of features that have been added during 2022. I do get the irritation from the bugs (had my first experience with wipers that auto activate as you drive under every street light the other night) and it'd be nice if that didn't happen. I will be reading release notes and checking others' experiences online before I accept any software updates, but overall I'd much rather have it this way than the legacy way.
MashinBenzin
Member
But what’s stops us setting the destination in the Tesla nav so the preconditioning still takes place?
MashinBenzin
Member
Legacy manufacturers is a convenient label as if there is something universally bad about all of them.
The Volvo system is notoriously poor. As for maps being out of date - well that’s not the case with waze, Apple Maps or Google maps through CarPlay.
The rose-tinted vision is from Tesla fanboys who refuse to see that other manufacturers are pushing things on and already do many things better. There’s plenty of opportunity for Tesla to improve, but I’m not yet getting the feeling that they will.
ETA - what are the unbelievable features added in 2022? I’ve only had my car three months but there hasn’t been anything much added in that time apart from an improved energy app.
Well, I didn't actually say the features were unbelievable, I said the number is unbelievable. The features themselves range from relatively mundane to fairly substantial. If you're too lazy to look it up, here they are:
And for comparison, here's a complete list of retrospectively added features that my VW acquired in the 9 years I had it:
Additions in 2022.44
- New Language Support
Additions in 2022.44.2
- Sentry Mode
- Camera-Based Detection
- Seat Belt System Enhancement
- Energy App
2022.40 Releases
Additions in 2022.40.1
- Sentry Mode and Dog Mode
- Radio Station Logos
- Improved Charging Efficiency
- Driver Door Unlock Mode
- Regenerative Braking
- Tire Configuration
- Exterior Lighting
- Dashcam Viewer
- Hebrew Voice Navigation
- Sentry Mode Live Camera Access
- Supercharger Additional Details
- Boombox
- Learn More Links
- Regen Blend Indicator Light
Additions in 2022.40.4
- Additional Tooltips
Additions in 2022.40.4.1
- Transfer Call to Vehicle
Additions in 2022.40.5
- FSD Beta v11 Release Notes
2022.36 Releases
Additions in 2022.36
- Energy App
- Supercharger Additional Details
- Car Left Open Notifications
- New Language Support
Additions in 2022.36.1
- Cabin Overheat Protection
- Battery Heating Performance
- Tesla App
- Caraoke
- Dynamic Brake Lights
- Autopilot Disengagement at Highway Merges
- Sentry Mode Live Camera Access
- Hide Map Details
- Unlatch Door
- Autosteer Tips
- Battery Test in Service Mode
- Cabin Overheat Protection Default Temperature
- Mirrors Calibration
Additions in 2022.36.15
- Full Self-Driving (Beta) Suspension
- FSD Beta v10.69.3 Release Notes
- Alternate Routes
- Blind Spot Camera
- Theater Mode
- Tesla Profiles
- Status Bar
- Driver Profiles
- Traffic Along Route
- Disable Sentry Sounds
- Auto Rear Climate Controls
- Regenerative Braking
- Sonic
- Cat Quest
- Cuphead
- Suggested Destinations
- Full Screen Visualization
- Tire Pressure
- GPS Directions
- Uninstall Games
- Phone Icon
- HomeLink Buttons
- Safety Menu Reorganized
- Turn Signals
- Radio Icon
- Vehicle Alerts
- Battery Calibration
- Tesla Theater Status Bar
Additions in 2022.36.20
- FSD Beta v10.69.3.1 Release Notes
2022.28 Releases
Additions in 2022.28
- Theater Mode
Additions in 2022.28.1
- Alternate Routes
- Status Bar
- Sonic
- Cat Quest
- Cuphead
- Portuguese Voice Navigation
- Smart Summon
- Radio Icon
- HomeLink Buttons
- Safety Menu Reorganized
- Dark Mode
- Tesla Theater Status Bar
- Phone Icon
- Vehicle Alerts
- Battery Calibration
Additions in 2022.28.2
- Suggested Destinations
2022.24 Releases
Additions in 2022.24
- Blind Spot Camera
- Tesla Profiles
- Traffic Along Route
- Disable Sentry Sounds
- Driver Profiles
- Auto Rear Climate Controls
- Additional Bottom Bar Customization
- Regenerative Braking
- Turn Signals
- GPS Directions
- Tire Pressure
- Uninstall Games
Additions in 2022.24.6
- Tesla Vision Update
2022.20 Releases
Additions in 2022.20
- Car Colorizer
- Polish Voice Navigation
- Turkish Voice Navigation
- Cabin Camera
- Speed Assist
- Online Radio
- Sentry Mode
- Seat Belt System Enhancement
- Tesla Adaptive Suspension
- HomeLink Buttons
- Battery at Arrival
- Green Traffic Light Chime
- Bluetooth Menu
Additions in 2022.20.6
- Tire Configuration
- Regenerative Braking
Additions in 2022.20.8
- Improvements to Energy Prediction
Additions in 2022.20.9
- Dynamic Brake Lights
Additions in 2022.20.10
- Full Self-Driving (Beta) Suspension
- FSD Beta v10.69.1 Release Notes
- Full Self-Driving (Beta)
- Automatic Supercharger Rerouting
- Regeneration / Acceleration Line
- Heater & Low Voltage Battery
Additions in 2022.20.11
- FSD Beta v10.69.1.1 Release Notes
Additions in 2022.20.15
- FSD Beta v10.69.2 Release Notes
Additions in 2022.20.16
- FSD Beta v10.69.2.1 Release Notes
Additions in 2022.20.17
- FSD Beta v10.69.2.2 Release Notes
Additions in 2022.20.18
- FSD Beta v10.69.2.3 Release Notes
Additions in 2022.20.19
- FSD Beta v10.69.2.4 Release Notes
2022.16 Releases
Additions in 2022.16
- Autopilot Maximum Speed
- Automatic Supercharger Rerouting
- Driver Profiles
- Regenerative Braking
- Navigation Energy Prediction
- TeslaMic
- Powered Trunk
- Updated Visualizations
- Regeneration / Acceleration Line
- Heater & Low Voltage Battery
Additions in 2022.16.1
- Navigate On Autopilot Fork Initiation
Additions in 2022.16.3.5
- Full Self-Driving (Beta) Suspension
- FSD Beta v10.13 Release Notes
- Improved Vehicle Path
Additions in 2022.16.3.10
- FSD Beta v10.69 Release Notes
- Full Self-Driving (Beta)
- Driving Visualization Improvements
- Cabin Camera
2022.12 Releases
Additions in 2022.12.1
- Additional Bottom Bar Customization
- Disney+
- Navigation Routes
- Child Lock
- Charging Time Estimation
- Additional Mobile App Controls
- Tesla Tutorials
- Rear Display Improvements
- New Language Support
- Browser Improvements
- Compass / Always North
- Superchargers List
- Updated Service Mode
Additions in 2022.12.3
- Over-the-Air (OTA) recall
- Range Display
Additions in 2022.12.3.3
- Fix for Display Restarting
Additions in 2022.12.3.4
- Autopilot Maximum Speed
Additions in 2022.12.3.10
- Updated Visualizations
- Full Self-Driving (Beta) Suspension
- FSD Beta v10.12 Release Notes
- Full Self-Driving (Beta)
- Driving Visualization Improvements
- Cabin Camera
- Vehicle Preconditioning
- Active Phone Calls
- Autopilot Speed Indicator
- Cloud Profiles
Additions in 2022.12.3.15
- FSD Beta v10.12.1 Release Notes
Additions in 2022.12.3.20
- FSD Beta v10.12.2 Release Notes
2022.8 Releases
Additions in 2022.8.2
- Charging Time Estimation
- Vehicle Preconditioning
- Active Phone Calls
- New Language Support
- Boombox
- Autopilot Speed Indicator
- Faster Backup Camera
- Cloud Profiles
Additions in 2022.8.3
- Cabin Camera
Additions in 2022.8.10.1
- Mobile App Improvements
- Cold Weather Improvements
- Autopark
- Bioweapon Defense Mode
- Driver Profiles
- Customizable App Launcher
- Traffic Aware Cruise Control Chime
- Manage Dashcam Clips
- Dark Mode
- Hide Map Details
2022.4 Releases
Additions in 2022.4
- Tire Pressure API
Additions in 2022.4.5
- Car Colorizer
- Audio Sources
- Icons in Status Bar
- Save Dashcam Clips
- Regenerative Braking in Autopilot
- Sonic the Hedgehog
- Windshield Wiper Defrost
- Nearby Superchargers
- TeslaMic and KTV
- Traffic Along Route
- NetEase Cloud Music
- Bilibili
Additions in 2022.4.5.4
- Request Full Self-Driving Beta
Additions in 2022.4.5.5
- Cabin Camera
Additions in 2022.4.5.12
- Range Display Calibration
- Minor Fixes
Additions in 2022.4.5.15
- Full Self-Driving (Beta) Suspension
- FSD Beta v10.11 Release Notes
- Full Self-Driving (Beta)
- Driving Visualization Improvements
Additions in 2022.4.5.20
- FSD Beta New Markets
- FSD Beta v10.11.1 Release Notes
Additions in 2022.4.5.21
- FSD Beta v10.11.2 Release Notes
- Boombox
2022.2 Releases
Additions in 2022.2.1
- Car Colorizer
- Windshield Wiper Defrost
- Save Dashcam Clips
- Nearby Superchargers
- TeslaMic and KTV
- Traffic Along Route
- NetEase Cloud Music
- Bilibili
And for comparison, here's a complete list of retrospectively added features that my VW acquired in the 9 years I had it:
MashinBenzin
Member
Oh I see, just code and bug fixes for existing features in the main. The OTA updates in my Land Rover were similar. Nothing to be excited about, sorry.
I noticed everyone got excited on here by one of the recent updates that added alternate route options,2022.36.15 above. functionality I’d had in the legacy manufacturer car for over 3 years…
Ok, if you like. I mean I just looked up the release notes for Landrover software and I’d say the changes were less numerous and ambitious but whatever.
Look, if you’ve decided to buy / retain an expensive car with significant resale value even though it makes you angry enough to post on the internet about it then your problems may be more wetware than software.
Well I think today has finally finished me off.
Opened the app this morning 8am to find 2022.44.2 installing, it didn’t ask if I wanted to install it. It’s now 4pm and it’s going at a snail’s pace and up to 43%
I called Tesla explained the situation and that I really needed to get into and use my car. Very pleasant young lady took my VIN and said she would refresh it and call me back in 30mins to see if it went quicker. She did call back and as it didn’t go quicker put me on hold whilst she spoke to “the advanced team” They apparently said they couldn’t make it go quicker but noted that I only had 2 bars of Wi-Fi, could I move the car nearer to the Wi-Fi? I told her the car was connected to the charger in its usual place and questioned whether I would be able to open the car. Ah maybe not she replied and it might break a window if you tried
So I’ve ordered a taxi to get to a hospital appointment and then when Tesla finally let me into my 50k car I’ll be off down the Kia garage.
Opened the app this morning 8am to find 2022.44.2 installing, it didn’t ask if I wanted to install it. It’s now 4pm and it’s going at a snail’s pace and up to 43%
I called Tesla explained the situation and that I really needed to get into and use my car. Very pleasant young lady took my VIN and said she would refresh it and call me back in 30mins to see if it went quicker. She did call back and as it didn’t go quicker put me on hold whilst she spoke to “the advanced team” They apparently said they couldn’t make it go quicker but noted that I only had 2 bars of Wi-Fi, could I move the car nearer to the Wi-Fi? I told her the car was connected to the charger in its usual place and questioned whether I would be able to open the car. Ah maybe not she replied and it might break a window if you tried
So I’ve ordered a taxi to get to a hospital appointment and then when Tesla finally let me into my 50k car I’ll be off down the Kia garage.
Zilla91
Active Member
99% of my drives are local where I’m not too bothered about range calculations or superchargers. Would much rather have Waze running on CarPlay alerting me about traffic and speed cameras
MashinBenzin
Member
That’s shocking. Honestly, the tech in these cars is an embarrassment and years behind the competition. I’m sorry you’ve had real world experience of just how inconvenient that can be.Well I think today has finally finished me off.
Opened the app this morning 8am to find 2022.44.2 installing, it didn’t ask if I wanted to install it. It’s now 4pm and it’s going at a snail’s pace and up to 43%
I called Tesla explained the situation and that I really needed to get into and use my car. Very pleasant young lady took my VIN and said she would refresh it and call me back in 30mins to see if it went quicker. She did call back and as it didn’t go quicker put me on hold whilst she spoke to “the advanced team” They apparently said they couldn’t make it go quicker but noted that I only had 2 bars of Wi-Fi, could I move the car nearer to the Wi-Fi? I told her the car was connected to the charger in its usual place and questioned whether I would be able to open the car. Ah maybe not she replied and it might break a window if you tried
So I’ve ordered a taxi to get to a hospital appointment and then when Tesla finally let me into my 50k car I’ll be off down the Kia garage.
If bugs get under your skin, change your software update schedule from Advanced to Standard. Having it set on Advanced means you’re going to get earlier software releases that often have bugs. Having it set on Standard means you’ll get less frequent, but more thoroughly vetted software updates.
Car menu > Software.
Car menu > Software.
I think installing but not sure, it’s still going but I’m reluctant to try opening a door. Tesla said they couldn’t stop it so I assume it is installing.
ACarneiro
Active Member
Thanks for that I just checked and it was on advanced, it won’t be anymore. Probably dates back to when updates were less frequent and more stable.
It’s finally stopped so maybe it was just downloading. It’s asking If I want to install 44.2 but I need the car tomorrow so it won’t be installed tonight.
I have a glitch on my M3P where after a minute or two my radio/Spotify mutes and then the phone bit (bottom right of screen) pops up like I’m on a call. Then the only way to get it to sort itself out is by calling someone and then disconnecting the call. Incredibly irritating. Had the issue for like 2 months. Model 3 is going back in 2 weeks though as I’ve a MYP now and so far it’s not happened with my new car.
Did you try to open and move the car? If it was downloading then why couldn't you drive away normally? The download would be interrupted but should pick up at a later opportunity.
