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Giga Berlin/GF4 Factory Discussion
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Images that go over the factory layout as of January/February 2020:
- X Auto - Tesla & EVs on Twitter
- @GF4Tesla..️️.build #GigaBerlin. on Twitter (this tweet is the translation of the first image)
I am curious to know where the design development is at for the actual building, including procurement.
From what I understand, this factory is different than Shanghai, and far different than Freemont. I realize most of the structure is simply a box designed to contain equipment, which likely means there is something of an “off the shelf” design, but local regulations and codes are may have some effect on the timing of municipal approvals. These things can sometimes go slowly. I don’t even know if the site is adequately serviced in terms of power, water and, sanitary infrastructure that may need to be installed on properties outside of this site.
If they ever build a Gigafactory in Canada, I’ll have a much better read of the situation, but I don’t understand enough about how things are done in Germany. I would assume they are... big on rules,
From what I understand, this factory is different than Shanghai, and far different than Freemont. I realize most of the structure is simply a box designed to contain equipment, which likely means there is something of an “off the shelf” design, but local regulations and codes are may have some effect on the timing of municipal approvals. These things can sometimes go slowly. I don’t even know if the site is adequately serviced in terms of power, water and, sanitary infrastructure that may need to be installed on properties outside of this site.
If they ever build a Gigafactory in Canada, I’ll have a much better read of the situation, but I don’t understand enough about how things are done in Germany. I would assume they are... big on rules,
I read, I believe on this forum, that the site had been considered by BMW and processed with locat/regional/national government for over a year........suggesting that the process should be more timely than if Tesla had started from scratch (whenever they started).
Mayor: Construction of Tesla Gigafactory in Grünheide possible at the end of March > teslamag.de
Google Translate: Google Übersetzer
So that March 18th date looks like the last important date and then they will likely get the final permit soon after. Doesn't look like any showstoppers. The tree cutting seemed to be the biggest obstacle which appears to be largely done.
Google Translate: Google Übersetzer
So that March 18th date looks like the last important date and then they will likely get the final permit soon after. Doesn't look like any showstoppers. The tree cutting seemed to be the biggest obstacle which appears to be largely done.
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Twitter accounts with recent pictures:
Natural gas connection being prepared:
@GF4Tesla..️️.build #GigaBerlin. on Twitter
It's a shame that German energy policy on taxation makes this necessary, GF1 has no natural gas supply and that was touted as a big selling point. Does GF Shanghai have a natural gas connection?
@GF4Tesla..️️.build #GigaBerlin. on Twitter
It's a shame that German energy policy on taxation makes this necessary, GF1 has no natural gas supply and that was touted as a big selling point. Does GF Shanghai have a natural gas connection?
Tesla-Minifactory in Grünheide: Landesregierung rechnet auf Jahre lediglich mit 12.000 statt der versprochenen 40.000 Mitarbeiter
Die Brandenburger Landesregierung rechnet damit, dass Tesla in den nächsten Jahren lediglich 12.000 Mitarbeiter beschäftigen wird.
www.businessinsider.de
Business Insider is reporting Giga Berlin's proposed July opening will have to be delayed.
Tesla said to be facing 6-month delay in opening Gigafactory Berlin, based on German report
Tesla’s issues in Germany have now reportedly resulted in a six-month delay of the start of production at Gigafactory Berlin,...
electrek.co
Adding to previous post - apparently the factory now faces a six month delay, which would push the opening to 2022.
Musk blames bureaucracy for Tesla's German Gigafactory delays
A number of young Tesla fans gathered at the edge of the factory's construction site in Gruenheide after hearing about Musk's visit.
www.autonews.com
petit_bateau
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A better translation than I have seen elsewhere,
"The Brandenburg State Office for the Environment has granted Tesla permission to start installing final assembly equipment at the Giga Berlin factory in Grünheide ahead of schedule. It is not the first advance approval allowing work inside the factory.
This involves equipment “for the assembly of interior fittings, cockpit, assembly of chassis, engine, among other things”, as the Brandenburg Ministry of the Environment (MLUK) writes on Twitter. "
www.electrive.com
"The Brandenburg State Office for the Environment has granted Tesla permission to start installing final assembly equipment at the Giga Berlin factory in Grünheide ahead of schedule. It is not the first advance approval allowing work inside the factory.
This involves equipment “for the assembly of interior fittings, cockpit, assembly of chassis, engine, among other things”, as the Brandenburg Ministry of the Environment (MLUK) writes on Twitter. "
Brandenburg grants Tesla yet another partial approval - electrive.com
The Brandenburg State Office for the Environment has granted Tesla permission to start installing final assembly equipment at the Giga Berlin factory in Grünheide ahead of schedule. It is not the first advance approval allowing work inside the factory. This involves equipment “for the assembly...
www.electrive.com
They have poured lots of cement onto the heavy rebar foundation of the cell factory as shown here in the latest vid from GF4Tesla:
A bit earlier I spotted one white TMY frame on the parkinglot where months ago many were spotted under wraps.
Lot's of water lines beeing dug just as in Texas.
A bit earlier I spotted one white TMY frame on the parkinglot where months ago many were spotted under wraps.
Lot's of water lines beeing dug just as in Texas.
They cannot use poles in the ground since they would puncture the water table.
So they build a large slab to distribute the weight of the building.
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German region to fine Tesla for illegal construction
A German regional authority said it was preparing to fine Tesla (TSLA.O) for illegal building activity on the site of its planned new car factory near Berlin.
www.reuters.com
I'm not in Germany or Europe, so it's hard to tell what stories coming out are impactful and which are just rumors or very minor to the overall construction of the factory. But this is Reuters reporting, so it's a little bit easier to follow (no translation) and they're a somewhat legitimate outlet in reporting facts - and this story is just reporting what the environment ministry for Brandenburg is saying.
Follow Alex Voigt (@alex_avoight on Twitter) for frequent reports from Germany. Is he here?German region to fine Tesla for illegal construction
A German regional authority said it was preparing to fine Tesla (TSLA.O) for illegal building activity on the site of its planned new car factory near Berlin.
I'm not in Germany or Europe, so it's hard to tell what stories coming out are impactful and which are just rumors or very minor to the overall construction of the factory. But this is Reuters reporting, so it's a little bit easier to follow (no translation) and they're a somewhat legitimate outlet in reporting facts - and this story is just reporting what the environment ministry for Brandenburg is saying.
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