Giga Berlin production changes coming to Fremont WHEN???

[voip-ninja]

I recently saw the below video that details the differences in the Giga Berlin production LR and P Model Y and I'm baffled that we're into July and still not seeing these changes carried over to Fremont.

I don't know if this is due to Tesla waiting to change over their suppliers and make adjustments for the in-house produced part (seats) but it's a little off putting to me that there are a fairly large number of changes to the vehicle that seemingly improve it and so far there's no indication of any of these changes arriving out of Fremont where the bulk of the cars will be built for the remainder of the year.

Change list summarized;

1. New door trim panels - color match wood trim (Shanghai has had for 6+ months).
2. Door trim panel material made with softer plastic (should help with rattles).
3. Audio system update (tweeter delete and different sub layout, reportedly better audio quality).
4. Revised front seat design with beefier side bolsters.
5. Parcel shelf (Austin has but not Fremont)
6. Magnetic center console (Austin has but not Fremont)
7. Side cabin material near doors changed to a carpeted material to reduce seatbelt rattling
8. Strut change for softer closing rear hatch.
9. Suspension revision resulting in smoother ride in Performance version (unknown if LR version is also updated to better two stage dampeners).

 

[VegasMYP]

I recently saw the below video that details the differences in the Giga Berlin production LR and P Model Y and I'm baffled that we're into July and still not seeing these changes carried over to Fremont.

I don't know if this is due to Tesla waiting to change over their suppliers and make adjustments for the in-house produced part (seats) but it's a little off putting to me that there are a fairly large number of changes to the vehicle that seemingly improve it and so far there's no indication of any of these changes arriving out of Fremont where the bulk of the cars will be built for the remainder of the year.

Change list summarized;

1. New door trim panels - color match wood trim (Shanghai has had for 6+ months).
2. Door trim panel material made with softer plastic (should help with rattles).
3. Audio system update (tweeter delete and different sub layout, reportedly better audio quality).
4. Revised front seat design with beefier side bolsters.
5. Parcel shelf (Austin has but not Fremont)
6. Magnetic center console (Austin has but not Fremont)
7. Side cabin material near doors changed to a carpeted material to reduce seatbelt rattling
8. Strut change for softer closing rear hatch.
9. Suspension revision resulting in smoother ride in Performance version (unknown if LR version is also updated to better two stage dampeners).

And will it be possible to retrofit any of these differences into the '20 - '22 Fremont MYP versions? IMHO, No

 

[voip-ninja]

Most of those changes could be retrofit to the vehicle at an enormous cost making it not worth it.

 

[Twiglett]

I recently saw the below video that details the differences in the Giga Berlin production LR and P Model Y and I'm baffled that we're into July and still not seeing these changes carried over to Fremont.

I don't know if this is due to Tesla waiting to change over their suppliers and make adjustments for the in-house produced part (seats) but it's a little off putting to me that there are a fairly large number of changes to the vehicle that seemingly improve it and so far there's no indication of any of these changes arriving out of Fremont where the bulk of the cars will be built for the remainder of the year.

Change list summarized;

1. New door trim panels - color match wood trim (Shanghai has had for 6+ months).
2. Door trim panel material made with softer plastic (should help with rattles).
3. Audio system update (tweeter delete and different sub layout, reportedly better audio quality).
4. Revised front seat design with beefier side bolsters.
5. Parcel shelf (Austin has but not Fremont)
6. Magnetic center console (Austin has but not Fremont)
7. Side cabin material near doors changed to a carpeted material to reduce seatbelt rattling
8. Strut change for softer closing rear hatch.
9. Suspension revision resulting in smoother ride in Performance version (unknown if LR version is also updated to better two stage dampeners).

The guy obviously knows enough about the minutiae, but driving slowly around a grassy parking lot is hardly a conclusive suspension test
Maybe some of these are what the various shutdowns are for?
I seem to remember that the MiC cars got the Ryzen first, can't recall who got the hepa filter first though.
Does this mean we now have MiF, MiC, MiB & MiA

 

[voip-ninja]

There seem to be quite a few changes in both the Shanghai and Berlin cars that haven’t made their way to the North American built cars. It is annoying.

 

[Rotarybuddy]

Based on how quickly Tesla has implemented physical changes in the past do we think that a change could happen quickly without any warning or will it be at least 6 months or something with plenty of warning?

 

[voip-ninja]

Shanghai has had the new door panels for six months and Berlin has had them from the start, yet Austin started building and delivering with the old parts out of the gate. Tesla being cheapskates.

 

[Oznefu7]

Shanghai has had the new door panels for six months and Berlin has had them from the start, yet Austin started building and delivering with the old parts out of the gate. Tesla being cheapskates.

This is incredibly frustrating, especially with a brand new factory making producing "old" parts/designs.

 

[johnnycnote]

Might need to use up existing inventory before implementing changes

 

[voip-ninja]

Might need to use up existing inventory before implementing changes

It's hard to believe that they have 6+ months of parts inventory sitting unused that they are using up but I suppose it is possible.

 

[rhk109]

It's hard to believe that they have 6+ months of parts inventory sitting unused that they are using up but I suppose it is possible.

Maybe not in physical form on a shelf somewhere. But they may have long term supply contracts with suppliers that need to run their term before switching. Just a guess...

 

[YNoVA]

At least the parcel shelf can be retrofitted free of charge.

 

[Rotarybuddy]

Do Austin cars have some or all of the updates? I like the door panels and different glass espeicially.

 

[MP3Mike]

At least the parcel shelf can be retrofitted free of charge.

Nope. Fremont cars don't have the inner quarter panel trim that has the ledge to support it.

 

[MP3Mike]

Do Austin cars have some or all of the updates? I like the door panels and different glass espeicially.

Some of the updates, but I don't think all of them. But like they have different front laminated glass, instead of two equal thickness pieces of glass, there is a thicker and thinner one. Also, they have the carpeted rear quarter panel inner trim where the seat belts rest. (Like the Berlin made cars.)

I don't think they have the "new" door panels. I suspect that the North American supplier doesn't have the tooling for the new panels, and they may not plan on making the switch.

 

[YNoVA]

Nope. Fremont cars don't have the inner quarter panel trim that has the ledge to support it.

People have reported that their service centers have been replacing the trim required for it and adding the cargo cover.

 

[Twiglett]

worth remembering that many of the changes are using parts coming from local suppliers. Its less easy to change parts when you already have supply agreements with existing suppliers, or you've already committed to a certain volume from those suppliers.
New factories and supply agreements make it much easier to change parts and the change could sometimes be required, just as some suppliers may not be able to ramp up to meet demand or make the part cheap enough to ship it across the world.
Basically - lots of sound business reasons for things like this to happen.

 

[MP3Mike]

People have reported that their service centers have been replacing the trim required for it and adding the cargo cover.

Do you have a link to those reports? (I haven't seen that.)

I'm still not sure if I want it or not. I guess I could always take it out and only put it in when needed...

 

[YNoVA]

Do you have a link to those reports? (I haven't seen that.)

I'm still not sure if I want it or not. I guess I could always take it out and only put it in when needed...

No, I've seen people on reddit talk about it but I forgot which post it was.

 

[MP3Mike]

No, I've seen people on reddit talk about it but I forgot which post it was.

I found this one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/w3wfxq/_/igzbyl6

But he is ordering the parts. And so far the upper C pillar trim that appears to support the parcel shelf were $70/each. And they look like this:

There may be two more trim pieces required in addition to the shelf itself. So you are probably looking at $300-500 for the parts to do it yourself.