flankspeed8
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Surprised this hasn't been posted yet.. Highest mileage Volt hits 300k miles with no major problems...
Durable 2012 Chevrolet Volt: 300,000 miles, no battery loss
Durable 2012 Chevrolet Volt: 300,000 miles, no battery loss
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103k miles on grid power and 197k miles on gasoline hybrid mode.
But even in range extender mode, the battery is always active and always used, although some of the range extender power is transmitted directly to the wheels bypassing the battery. Still, maybe a 20% reduction on the battery usage overally
When battery degradation in a volt finally shows up, it will already be degraded under 60% of nominal capacity.Still 100k on a battery with no discernible amount of degradation
General Motors made a bold and brave move to limit access to the Volt’s 16.5kWh battery to around 10kWh
Fair enough. Still 100k on a battery with no discernible amount of degradation. GM probably did the best job of protecting the battery of anybody, IMHO. Arguably, they were too conservative in not allowing the car/user access as much SOC range as they might should have.
When battery degradation in a volt finally shows up, it will already be degraded under 60% of nominal capacity.
That's fantastic Andy, I hope to get numbers as good out of my 2016 Volt!
But even in range extender mode, the battery is always active and always used, although some of the range extender power is transmitted directly to the wheels bypassing the battery. Still, maybe a 20% reduction on the battery usage overall.
103k miles on grid power and 197k miles on gasoline hybrid mode.
Is there a "1/3" rule of thumb developing on the Volt that I should tell my friends that are thinking of buying one?I have 72,000 miles on my 2012 Volt, about 30% EV. I don't think it's lost any range yet.
I feel so spoiled.120kW output for passing
Is there a "1/3" rule of thumb developing on the Volt that I should tell my friends that are thinking of buying one?
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I feel so spoiled.
You mean the battery is active in hybrid mode?
I thought hybrid mode meant no regenerative breaking and exclusive use of gasoline through the ICE directly to power the wheels.
Shocking.
Apologies if you weren't being serious, my sarcasm meter is on the blink...
The battery is active in hybrid mode. Technically it's a "charge sustaining" mode - once the battery is "empty" the car attempts to retain the battery SOC at around a 15% level, but will dip into it to meet short-duration power demands rather than revving the ICE. You can pull away from a light without the engine starting, and then after a few seconds it powers up the ICE to replace what you've just taken out of the battery. And regen works fine in CS mode - regen down a big hill and it'll cruise around on battery until the SOC drops below the threshold.
What IS annoying is that on the 2011-2015 model there are two ICE modes - one where the ICE speed has no direct connection to the wheels and no relation to road speed that is used for low power demands, and one where one of the electric motors is clutched to allow the ICE to directly drive the wheels, and the ICE speed does have relation to road speed - used when power demands are higher. Unfortunately it takes about 2 seconds for it to switch modes and during that time the accelerator pedal feels "dead". The 2016+ transmission operates differently and doesn't have the lag. Oh, and the battery is too small, the "normal" throttle mapping is incredibly "soft", I still have to put gas in it, and it honks the horn all the time if you look at it sideways...
Is the %)($*% Model III shipping yet? Yeesh...
Is there a "1/3" rule of thumb developing on the Volt that I should tell my friends that are thinking of buying one?
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I feel so spoiled.
Sigh. Don't blame the programmers for such things.I'm very glad that the Volt programmers didn't follow the "succeed quietly, fail noisily" principle used by some idiotic programmers, because we're blind and can't count, so we can't just go by the solid or flashing green light.
Thanks for the data!My daughter's Volt is 88.2% EV miles per telemetry, and my son's Volt is 89.6% EV miles.
Telemetry on 1,855 Volts across the US says the median EV percentage is 76.9% EV miles as of today.
No, no 1/3 rule. Some of the higher mileage Volts will be higher percentage on gas. That's how they got to be high mileage. However, the majority of Volt drivers typically achieve > 90% electric I'm pretty sure. Check voltstats.net to get an idea. Mine is one of the lowest in EV%. I think I'm in like the bottom 5%.
@RobStark -- are you serious about thinking hybrid mode would have no regenerative braking? If it didn't have regenerative braking, it wouldn't be a hybrid mode. When the battery is depleted, it operates much like any other hybrid on the road -- battery is generally kept within a certain range with the car powered by a blend of gasoline engine and regenerative braking.
Just to amplify a bit, the Volt fleet overall operates about 2/3 EV and 1/3 Hybrid range extender. There is some self selection on Voltstats, so it is a bit higher there.
When the Volt SOC gets down to 23% (which shows 0 miles to the driver) it goes into hybrid mode. At that point, it becomes a HEAVY Prius, due to the battery size - meaning it doesn't hit Prius mpg numbers. The SOC operating range of Gen I Volt is 65% of the battery from a low of 23% SOC to a high of 88% SOC.
Voltstats isn't Fuelly.com. It's pure telemetry.
Correction about the Heavy Prius. When your 53mi is up, you end up with lag-free turbocharged Prius that corners a lot better.
Yes, if you are driving only to save money, you might as well drive a Prius, whether or not it saves money is not important. Because people will THINK you're trying to save gas, which is more important than saving gas. And it will explain why you drive like grandma.
Yes, a Plug in Prius gets better highway gas mileage, but it's not much. At 70mph with the cruise control, the 2016 Volt used .66 gallons to cover 31 miles yesterday. The other 49 miles were electric, which for me is free. But the big factor is at 70mph I have full EV output power with "0 miles" on the battery.
It is funny that the Toyota advertises the Prius at a better Power To Weight Ratio than the 2016 Volt is advertised at. But the acceleration uphill at 70 mph isn't close. A 0-30mph dash is a bloodbath.