GM Cruise's CEO leaving

[mark95476]

More churn in the AV/ADAS industry. This time it's GM's Cruise.

- Dan Ammann, CEO of General Motors autonomous vehicle branch Cruise, is leaving the company, GM announced Thursday.
- Cruise’s President and CTO Kyle Vogt will take over as interim CEO, the company said.

CEO of GM's autonomous vehicle branch Cruise is leaving the company

Cruise's President and CTO Kyle Vogt will take over as interim CEO, the company said.

www.cnbc.com

 

[diplomat33]

More churn in the AV/ADAS industry. This time it's GM's Cruise.

- Dan Ammann, CEO of General Motors autonomous vehicle branch Cruise, is leaving the company, GM announced Thursday.
- Cruise’s President and CTO Kyle Vogt will take over as interim CEO, the company said.

CEO of GM's autonomous vehicle branch Cruise is leaving the company

Cruise's President and CTO Kyle Vogt will take over as interim CEO, the company said.

www.cnbc.com

IMO, Kyle will be a better CEO.

 

[Daniel in SD]

IMO, Kyle will be a better CEO.

I agree. It makes sense to have engineer head an AV company until it’s actually a mature business.

 

[EVNow]

More churn in the AV/ADAS industry. This time it's GM's Cruise.

- Dan Ammann, CEO of General Motors autonomous vehicle branch Cruise, is leaving the company, GM announced Thursday.
- Cruise’s President and CTO Kyle Vogt will take over as interim CEO, the company said.

CEO of GM's autonomous vehicle branch Cruise is leaving the company

Cruise's President and CTO Kyle Vogt will take over as interim CEO, the company said.

www.cnbc.com

Hmm ... why would the CEO leave just ahead of enabling GM cars to drive "all paved roads" on UltraCruise ?

May be everything is not as rosy as they want us to believe ...

 

[zigmeister]

^ Or google or apple hired him at 4x the salary and benefits he couldn’t refuse.

 

[diplomat33]

Hmm ... why would the CEO leave just ahead of enabling GM cars to drive "all paved roads" on UltraCruise ?

Ammann has nothing to do with UltraCruise. He was the CEO of Cruise, the AV company that is working on L4 robotaxis.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Hmm ... why would the CEO leave just ahead of enabling GM cars to drive "all paved roads" on UltraCruise ?

May be everything is not as rosy as they want us to believe ...

I thought Cruise was completely separate from the SuperCruise and UltraCruise development?

 

[diplomat33]

I thought Cruise was completely separate from the SuperCruise and UltraCruise development?

It is. EVNow is confusing the two things.

 

[EVNow]

^ Or google or apple hired him at 4x the salary and benefits he couldn’t refuse.

Not sure at that level. CEOs want to be able to boast of major accomplishments. Actually, most people in some kind of leadership position do. They move when things are not going well ... or after some kind of big achievement.

 

[EVNow]

I thought Cruise was completely separate from the SuperCruise and UltraCruise development?

It is. EVNow is confusing the two things.

I know Cruise has been trying robotaxi. But - isn't UltraCruise based on Cruise technology ? Is it developed by someone else ?

ps : My assumption was Cruise also developed these ADAS stuff for GM after the merger.

 

[diplomat33]

I know Cruise has been trying robotaxi. But - isn't UltraCruise based on Cruise technology ? Is it developed by someone else ?

No, UltraCruise is not based on Cruise tech as far as I know. Yes, it is being developed by someone else. UltraCruise is being developed by GM.

 

[Daniel in SD]

I know Cruise has been trying robotaxi. But - isn't UltraCruise based on Cruise technology ? Is it developed by someone else ?

I don’t think so. I was assuming it was mobileye tech like SuperCruise.

 

[EVNow]

No, UltraCruise is not based on Cruise tech as far as I know. Yes, it is being developed by someone else. UltraCruise is being developed by GM.

Zero chance GM developed UltraCruise without Cruise tech. And it would be stupid too - GM bought Cruise to get this tech, not to develop separate self-driving technology.

I don’t think so. I was assuming it was mobileye tech like SuperCruise.

Possible - but that would be weird too, given GM owns Cruise. Anyway, if so, we'd have heard about it if it was true.

GM bought Cruise to get into ADAS quickly. And it makes perfect sense for Cruise to use their basic technology to develop ADAS for GM. May be the team was located within Cruise or GM - doesn't really matter.

ps : Anyway, thats my assumption. Will dig into this. BTW, my confidence that UltraCuise would do atleast somewhat ok was based on this assumption !

 

[diplomat33]

Zero chance GM developed UltraCruise without Cruise tech. And it would be stupid too - GM bought Cruise to get this tech, not to develop separate self-driving technology.

GM is not developing separate self-driving tech. GM is developing their own driver assist. UltraCruise is L2 ADAS. GM has said they will use Cruise tech when they decide to put L4 on consumer cars.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Zero chance GM developed UltraCruise without Cruise tech. And it would be stupid too - GM bought Cruise to get this tech, not to develop separate self-driving technology.


Possible - but that would be weird too, given GM owns Cruise. Anyway, if so, we'd have heard about it if it was true.

GM bought Cruise to get into ADAS quickly. And it makes perfect sense for Cruise to use their basic technology to develop ADAS for GM. May be the team was located within Cruise or GM - doesn't really matter.

ps : Anyway, thats my assumption. Will dig into this. BTW, my confidence that UltraCuise would do atleast somewhat ok was based on this assumption !

Much more likely they’re using Mobileye who they already use in all their production ADAS. Mobileye definitely has the tech to do UltraCruise.

 

[EVNow]

Much more likely they’re using Mobileye who they already use in all their production ADAS. Mobileye definitely has the tech to do UltraCruise.

Then there should be some news on that.

This seems to say Toyota uses Mobileye but GM uses some platform developed by ORNL ?

General Motors has licensed a powerful AI software system from the Department of Energy’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) that uses convolutional neural network technology.

Toyota, GM Sign Tech Partners to Expand Vehicle Advanced Driver-Assistance Capabilities

With cars and trucks constantly gaining new driver-assistance features to increase on-the-road safety, two of the world’s largest automakers are bringing

www.enterpriseai.news

ps : This thread says it was built in house. How do you get to build two separate solutions within the same company (even though one is acquired ?). I thought only Microsoft did stuff like that

https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/q31or9/_/hfp6jpl

 

[Daniel in SD]

Then there should be some news on that.

This seems to say Toyota uses Mobileye but GM uses some platform developed by ORNL ?

Toyota, GM Sign Tech Partners to Expand Vehicle Advanced Driver-Assistance Capabilities

With cars and trucks constantly gaining new driver-assistance features to increase on-the-road safety, two of the world’s largest automakers are bringing

www.enterpriseai.news

ps : This thread says it was built in house. How do you get to build two separate solutions within the same company (even though one is acquired ?). I thought only Microsoft did stuff like that

https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/q31or9/_/hfp6jpl

You're right, they claim it UltraCruise is being developed in-house.

“Ultra Cruise is not just a game changer in terms of what it enables − a door-to-door hands-free driving experience − but a technological one as well," said Doug Parks, GM executive vice president of Global Product Development, Purchasing and Supply Chain. “It's been developed completely in-house.”

GM Announces Ultra Cruise, Enabling True Hands-Free Driving Across 95 Percent of Driving Scenarios | General Motors Company

Ultra Cruise will ultimately enable door-to-door hands-free driving on all public paved roads in the U.S. and Canada WARREN, Mich. – Today, General Motors unveiled Ultra Cruise, an all-new, advanced driver-assistance technology and significant next step in the company's journey to enable its goal

investor.gm.com

I'm surprised that people think such a system is a good idea. I'm still skeptical that it will ever be released (and that applies to FSD Beta as well).