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Going with 4 seats - no second row

Discussion in 'Model X: Interior & Exterior' started by Axmann Philippe, Mar 5, 2016.

  1. essmd

    essmd Phantom X

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    There is a real safety concern with this modification, that actually exists with all of the 6&7 seat configurations.

    Unless the passenger in the 3rd row is a child or and adult who is short in the thorax, most likely their head will extend up into the rear cargo window recess, which is framed out by the rest of the rear trunk door.

    Upon a sudden deceleration or frontal impact, the forehead of the rider in one of these 2 seats will very likely come into contact with the solid window frame, and potentially cause a severe neck or head injury. It could even occur with a rear collision, as the head can recoil forward.

    For this reason, i do not allow any adult who is tall enough for this to occur to sit in the 3rd row.

    Overprotective??? Perhaps yes, but this is a real safety oversight in the design, that should come with a warning from Tesla.
     
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    I do not understand your thread title: "Going with 4 seats - no second row".

    Tesla does not offer such a seat configuration in the X.
     
  3. essmd

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    There was a pic posted in #27 of this thread, also saw it elsewhere...where the 2nd row seats were removed.

    That makes for a very tight set of passenger seats... except for amazing leg room

    4-seater.JPG
     
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  4. Gwgan

    Gwgan Almost a wagon

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  5. essmd

    essmd Phantom X

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    Haven't heard anything about any seat configuration changes for 3rd row, which I never use anyway... empty-nester, grand kids years away..

    Curious, you plan to follow through on your Model 3 reservation? Only keeping mine for a possible family member that otherwise might miss the $7500 tax credit based on their reservation number.
     
  6. Gwgan

    Gwgan Almost a wagon

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    In the early models there is no room for a third row passenger outside arm and in the newer ones it looks like there is a little space carved out next to the seat and no leather panel.
    The M3 is to replace the other car in the garage.
     
  7. essmd

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    That would definitely be an improvement for comfort, just by altering the inside molding.

    My biggest complaint of the 3rd row for an adult is the risk of smacking their forehead against the frame of the cargo door window, if they are tall enough, as most are.

    A sudden stop or front collision can potentially cause a significant head or neck injury.

    I am disappointing Tesla does not provide a warning about this, but if they are not required to, it's not something they want to advertise.

    I wish I could convince my wife to give up her Cayenne, but not likely.
     
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    Better call
    the dealers and good luck with it. Cheers
     
  9. essmd

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    Have you fully evaluated the functionality of the 3rd row seats if you plan to actually use them for passengers? They are very tight, and as I have previously mentioned, there is a safety factor with an adult in these seats as their heads typically extend into the window "pop-up". A sudden stop of a frontal collision can lead to a serious neck or head injury if the forehead suddenly meets the door frame.

    I am moving from a 6-seater to a 5-seater for mostly this reason, as I have no small children to transport, and prefer the rear cargo space.

    I suggest you really consider your plan carefully. For a if all you want if a 2-seater cargo vehicle, you may do better with a 5-seater and then remove the 2nd row, but your plan does retain those third row seats I suppose.

    Be safe


     
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    He's already done it.
     
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    All this for a poorly designed 6/7 and and non refined 5 seater.

    Push those back 2 seats up a little bit and split the difference. I'd buy that. ESP p100d and make it more performance orienated.
     
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  12. essmd

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    Ahhh., in that case, fully satisfied with end results?
     
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    I'd rock a 2-1-2 config. Taking out one seat of the 2-2-2.
     
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  14. JRP3

    JRP3 Hyperactive Member

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    Well if you read the thread you would know ;)

     
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    Has anyone sorted out a way to do this? I'm interested in removing the 2nd row from a 5-seater (or at least leaving the smaller seat)
     
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    I wish there was a 4 seat option (6 seat config w/ out 3rd row) and the seats moved about 3” further back. However, the seats would need to fold flat.
     

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