Fold flat, kinda, but disappear into the floor of the car? No. Thus, to do what Coastalquad wants to do, a bench, possibly both, must be removed.I don’t have the X but for some reason I thought the second row of the 5-seat version folds flat?
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Fold flat, kinda, but disappear into the floor of the car? No. Thus, to do what Coastalquad wants to do, a bench, possibly both, must be removed.I don’t have the X but for some reason I thought the second row of the 5-seat version folds flat?
Oh well then, there goes my notion of buying a camper-capable EV after my S lease expires...wait - don't other mfrs. have seats that submarine completely into the floor though? Oh wait, no batteries to get in the way...Fold flat, kinda, but disappear into the floor of the car? No. Thus, to do what Coastalquad wants to do, a bench, possibly both, must be removed.
I appreciate your response, David.•To remove the middle bench, you first have to remove the sill plates. You will probably break the sill plates in the process, so be prepared to buy new ones.
•Once you remove the sill plates, remove the floor.
•Once you remove the floor, unbolt the benches, and unplug them.
•Be aware that you will always get an error message that the car cannot communicate with the seats, and that the airbags will always be off. Furthermore, you will need to plug the seats back in to install any software updates or have any major fix done to your car.
I tried this long ago with my 5-seater. Software would not update.•To remove the middle bench, you first have to remove the sill plates. You will probably break the sill plates in the process, so be prepared to buy new ones.
•Once you remove the sill plates, remove the floor.
•Once you remove the floor, unbolt the benches, and unplug them.
•Be aware that you will always get an error message that the car cannot communicate with the seats, and that the airbags will always be off. Furthermore, you will need to plug the seats back in to install any software updates or have any major fix done to your car.
$90,000 for a spacious vehicle and I have to stuff it up with a ludicrous, slow motion chair loading robot monstrosity just to load a 35-pound wheelchair.I just saw an interesting way of carrying a wheelchair in a Tesla.
ROLLSTUHLVERLADEHILFE Robot 3000 in einem TESLA MODEL S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67WDGlds_pM
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WHEELCHAIR RELIEF ASSIST Robot 3000 in a TESLA MODEL S
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Oh, it folds flat all right. Leaving VERY LITTLE space above the seat back and below the ceiling.I don’t have the X but for some reason I thought the second row of the 5-seat version folds flat?
No, it's not that the batteries get in the way. There's actually a huge space between the level of the second row floor board that is filled in with Styrofoam filler blocks that goes way below door sill level. The top of the battery pack would be much lower than the floor board/door sill plate levels. That's what makes this so frustrating.Oh well then, there goes my notion of buying a camper-capable EV after my S lease expires...wait - don't other mfrs. have seats that submarine completely into the floor though? Oh wait, no batteries to get in the way...
Agreed. I did point out the software issue:I tried this long ago with my 5-seater. Software would not update.
… It's no fun removing and replacing the rear seats; the center/left set ALONE has 10 wire harness connections and has a computer module in the seat.
Not 400 lbs--and the bed I've installed (high density foam) has some weight to it, so no noticeable increase in range. I have not tried adding resisters and/or jumpers, and I doubt it would work. There is data communication, and shorting out the data line will make the car inoperable. I know, because I accidentally did that once.And removing 400lbs probably increased your range.
Love what you did. Great job! Have you tested the wires to see if you could add resisters and/or jumpers to get rid of the codes in the dash due to the seats being out?
I had unknowingly shorted the data line one night, and didn't try to use my car until the next morning. There were over a dozen (false) errors, and none of them had anything to do with the bench, so, dumbass me didn't make the mental connection between the errors that morning and the work I did the night before. I flat bedded my Tesla to the service center (9 miles), and it took them about a half day to track down the short to the plug to the bench. Once they fixed the short, all the errors disappeared.Interesting! What did you have to do to clear it? 12v battery disconnect? What code did you get?
Actually, I had just reinstalled the seats, in preparation for a trip with three passengers (I usually drive solo). I'm not sure how I shorted out the plug, but somehow, I did.Wow. They didnt have an issue with the fact that you removed the seats? Seems like something other companies would charge the customer for. Ill make sure I am careful with the plugs and harnesses if I do this.
Without the second row (or the second row is moved forward without a passenger), the leg space would be luxurious while sitting in the third row rear seats. However, the wheel wells do constrict passenger space on the side. There are no arm rests on the side of the third row. Don't expect limousine comfort.