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Got a loaner - have some questions

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by doubleohwhat, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. doubleohwhat

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    Tesla picked up my month-old S60 today and dropped off a P85 loaner. After running some errands and playing with the loaner, I have a couple of questions:

    1) How can I get the "dial" display in my (non autopilot) S60? Is this part of 8.0 (my S60 is still on 7.1)?:
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    2) How can I tell if this loaner has the upgraded audio? The loaner blows my S60 (with standard audio) away in terms of sound quality. If the loaner has the upgraded audio then that's the reason. If it doesn't then something has to be up with my S60 because it has ZERO bass. I mean nothing, nada. It literally sounds like an older bluetooth radio.

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    Thanks!
     
  2. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

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    The "dial" display is the version of the UI for non-AP enabled cars (also was the old display in... 6.x? or was it 7.0?). Even if you don't have AP enabled at the moment, you have the hardware and you have the AP safety features (AEB, etc.), so you can't go back to the "dial" display.

    It doesn't look like it has the upgraded audio. It would have the subwoofer in one of the side cubbies in the trunk.
     
  3. doubleohwhat

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    Ah, gotcha. Too bad. I much prefer the "dial" display.

    I read somewhere that 8.0 improved the audio quality of the standard audio system. Do you know if that's true? I'm wondering if that's the case since my car is still on 7.1. I mean, the audio quality difference is night and day.
     
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    Sure thing: 5YJSA1CP2DFP19519

    Thanks for the help guys!
     
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    Thanks. Just noticed it in one of your images. :)

    As mentioned above and from what I see, it looks like it doesn't have UHFS: 85 kWh Performance Model S 5YJSA1CP2DFP19519 | Tesla

    Perhaps the previous owner put in the Light Harmonic upgrade or something similar?
     
  6. Max*

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    Doesn't one of the REUS upgrades add a subwoofer where the rear-facing-seats would be stored? (in that little storage cubby under the trunk floor).

    OP, have you checked there?
     
  7. doubleohwhat

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    I thought you might be onto something there but nope. I just checked:
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    I can't find a sub anywhere. Trunk and "frunk" are empty.

    Would the non-sub LH upgrade make that big of a difference with the bass?
     
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    Standard audio takes a month or more to break in. When I first got my 85D I was so disappointed in the standard audio, but after a month or so, it got a lot better, especially in bass. I have my bass set at +9 and am happy enough with the response.
     
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    I'll give it another month or so to see what happens. Perhaps 8.0 will help a little. If it doesn't get better, I'll just do the LH upgrade. The audio is my only real complaint about the car. I love it otherwise.
     
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    Beware that your audio source makes a big difference as well. So if you, for instance, were listening to FM, make sure both the loaner and your car were turned into HD. If listening to Slacker, make sure your settings on both are using Best quality.
     
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    My S60 lacks any bass no matter the source. I've tried FM (HD), slacker (set to "best") and my own music on a flash drive. The loaner sounds MUCH better with both FM and slacker. I left my flash drive in the S60.
     
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    I assume you did this, but I am going to ask anyways. The equalizer settings in the 2nd picture are the same in both cars, right? If not, try using the settings from above in your car and compare.
     
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    Yep. I set the equalizer settings in the loaner to match my car.
     
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    Time to talk to service when you return the loaner. Play the same song from a USB stick on both system, one immediately after the other.

    One last bit, make sure both cars have the parcel shelf in the same spot. I've found I can hear the difference when my shelf is "up" or removed.
     
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    Yeah, when they return my car, I'm going to have them listen to them both and tell me what's going on. The shelf is in the same place in the loaner as I have it in my car. Something is definitely not right.
     
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    I got an answer from Tesla today regarding the sound quality difference between my car and the loaner. Apparently, at some point, Tesla switched from 3rd party speakers and other audio hardware to doing everything (including the speakers) in house.

    I was told that even though neither car has the upgraded audio, there is no comparison between the two. I asked, "so the older standard audio has better sound quality?" and the reply was "Well, it's different". Read between the lines however you wish but to me it says even the techs know the newer audio hardware is crap in comparison to the older standard audio.
     
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    Did they by chance tell you at what point?

    I'm guessing it's somewhere between VIN number 19xxx (your loaner) and 150xxx (roughly where the current VINs are?), but I'd like to narrow it down some more to see where my car falls.
     
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    Nope, he didn't mention at what point they switched. He spoke as if the loaner was ancient though. So my guess the switch-over was well after 2013.

    When I get my car back next week I'm going to compare the interior to see if there's anything that makes it obvious.

    He also mentioned that a lot of people weren't happy with the new current standard audio or upgraded audio. So it seems the best thing to do is just get the standard system and do an aftermarket upgrade.
     
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    Things may have changed but even best quality for Slacker was 128kbps.
     
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    Thanks for the info. That's what I have planned.
     

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