Yes.
Audi A8 uses front lidar. The Lucid Air and Byton K-Byte that are scheduled to start production later this year will also include lidar. There might be more but those are the ones that I could find.
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Government regulations of L2 driver assist systems
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Yes.
Audi A8 uses front lidar. The Lucid Air and Byton K-Byte that are scheduled to start production later this year will also include lidar. There might be more but those are the ones that I could find.
boonedocks
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That does not count. That was just a one-time demo. I am talking about companies that have shown consistent, duplicable, autonomous driving. Waymo and Cruise have shown that.
mikes_fsd
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All you posted was companies demos.
Yes, but they have done millions of miles of autonomous driving. Waymo reported 1.4 million miles of autonomous driving to the CA DMV for the 2019 year. Tesla only reported 12 miles.
But if we go by reported stats Tesla is the only one that reported a 0% disengagement rate.
But even those companies say that the CA autonomous driving reports are completely worthless. Tesla could have done 10 billion miles of autonomous driving in CA, with the nag enabled, and they wouldn't have to report any of it. (i.e. they are keeping their progress, or lack of progress, secret.)
But if we go by reported stats Tesla is the only one that reported a 0% disengagement rate.
But even those companies say that the CA autonomous driving reports are completely worthless. Tesla could have done 10 billion miles of autonomous driving in CA, with the nag enabled, and they wouldn't have to report any of it. (i.e. they are keeping their progress, or lack of progress, secret.)
You can't be serious.
First of all, they never said that the CA disengagement report was worthless. They said that the report was the not the one best metric to measure autonomous driving. In other words, the report does provide some info, but not all the info needed to judge how good the autonomous driving is because there are a lot of factors.
And if the report is so meaningless, why do any companies report anything? Why didn't Waymo do its 1.4 million miles of autonomous driving and not report it?
Second, surely you know that 0 disengagements out of 12 miles is too small a sample to measure anything. Also, you need at least 1 disengagement for the disengagement rate to mean anything.
They report it because they are required to by law.
Waymo reported it because they were required to by law because they didn't have a driver attention nag enabled.
Really?
If Tesla had 10 billion miles with 0 disengagements that number would be meaningless?
Yes, if Tesla did autonomous miles, even with the nag, they would be required to report it. Uber even got in trouble because they tried to do autonomous miles but not report it by claiming it was only L2.
If Tesla had 10 billion miles with 0 disengagements that number would be meaningless?
Obviously, if Tesla did 10 billion miles with no disengagement that would not be meaningless. But they only reported 12 miles which is too small a sample size.
I suggest you go read the reporting requirements. Did Uber actually have a driver engagement nag enabled? Or were they just claiming L2 because they required a driver to monitor it? There is a big difference. (One requires reporting the other doesn't.)
Daniel in SD
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Waymo has driver engagement monitoring and I bet everyone else does too. Doesn't really matter since the regulations say nothing about driver engagement monitoring.
Daniel in SD
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Yep: Waymo reportedly returns safety drivers to its autonomous carsWaymo has driver engagement monitoring?
Obviously their driverless test vehicles don't have driver engagement monitoring! haha.
Waymo has driver engagement monitoring?
They are driverless.
But Waymo still uses safety drivers in some instances when they are testing.
Oh this is Schrödinger's driverless. It is driverless unless it isn't.
Well there is this:
If Tesla requires active monitoring it doesn't count as an "autonomous test vehicle".
Daniel in SD
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mikes_fsd
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Yes, they spend an inordinate amount of time and money writing vision for lidar.
And I think it's I wasted effort that should have been used by them to work on computer/camera vision.
I've been very clear where I stand.
First company to have a solution available to unrestricted general public use, not necessarily for purchase, but for general public use, wins!
Daniel in SD
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Haha. That is very often not the case in tech.
People who invested in Iridium know something about that. Turns out making phones that only work in 90% of places was a much better business than making phones that work everywhere.
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