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Government regulations of L2 driver assist systems

diplomat33

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Aug 3, 2017
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We agreed for the purposes of this section (and you agreed yourself) we will only count FSD as meeting the following criteria:
  • Anywhere
  • Anytime
  • Anyone
Or do you want to flip flop again!?

No, I am not flip flopping. I said that nobody has achieved L5. I am going with your definition that FSD = L5.

I am saying that there are plenty of lidar equipped robotaxis that are autonomous vehicles even if they are not "full self-driving" by your definition.

Geofenced autonomous driving is not FSD by your definition, but it is still real autonomous driving. You do get that right?
 
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mspisars

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So you are moving the goal posts?
Really? we just went through this one post up and you are going to say that I am moving goal posts?
Sounds more like you are trying to backtrack on you agreeing to this definition for this sub-forum!
So now, if a car is not FSD (anywhere, anytime, anyone) it is not even self-driving at all?
Full Self Driving needs to be useful, useful to regular humans.
I could care less for fancy demo's, benefits me ZERO, or anyone else outside the company releasing the video.
Locked to a small city in the middle of nowhere USA is of no benefit to me or the 99+% of the rest of US population, ie. NOT useful.
 

diplomat33

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Aug 3, 2017
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Terre Haute, IN USA
Really? we just went through this one post up and you are going to say that I am moving goal posts?
Sounds more like you are trying to backtrack on you agreeing to this definition for this sub-forum!

Full Self Driving needs to be useful, useful to regular humans.
I could care less for fancy demo's, benefits me ZERO, or anyone else outside the company releasing the video.
Locked to a small city in the middle of nowhere USA is of no benefit to me or the 99+% of the rest of US population, ie. NOT useful.

Basically, you only care about what you can personally use. It's not legit autonomous driving unless you can use it. Got it.
 

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