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Great story on QC out of China, something the US needs to take notes on
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I, for one, would not hesitate to buy a Chinese or German built Tesla.
The US models really are the worst. I have no confidence in their ability to build, QC, or even paint a vehicle.
The US models really are the worst. I have no confidence in their ability to build, QC, or even paint a vehicle.
Sorry to say it, but when I have seen pics of the Tesla factory workers in California, they all look like the epitome of slackers.
Hmmm. They are determining quality by measuring complaints. Is it possible that people in China complain less?
CyberGus
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I can promise with 100% certainty that the Texas workers will have absolutely no problems with paint on the CyberTruck
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
The BEST brand on JD Powers IQS in 2020 had 136 issues per 100 vehicles.
1.36 issues per car. For the BEST score.
The industry average was 1.66 issues per car.
On the Chinese survey the best car had 0.7 issues per 10,000 cars.
That's 0.00007 issues per car.
The industry average was .00372 issues per car.
I can buy that Chinese quality on at least some brands is better. I can't buy it's 500 times better across the industry.
So either the Chinese complain MASSIVELY less, or there's 0.00% chance those surveys are comparing the same stuff.
1.36 issues per car. For the BEST score.
The industry average was 1.66 issues per car.
On the Chinese survey the best car had 0.7 issues per 10,000 cars.
That's 0.00007 issues per car.
The industry average was .00372 issues per car.
I can buy that Chinese quality on at least some brands is better. I can't buy it's 500 times better across the industry.
So either the Chinese complain MASSIVELY less, or there's 0.00% chance those surveys are comparing the same stuff.
SmartElectric
Active Member
Others on this forum have mentioned the JD powers survey considered items like "I don't like where the seat position button is placed" as an "issue" for example. These aren't just "panel gap" issues, they are also "I prefer this to work differently".
That’s an utterly moronic comment.
SmartElectric
Active Member
U.S. cars would be built better if we sent workers to re-education camps when they leave a panel gap...
don‘t make assumption ，china made model3 update by weeks,Compared to US made model3,The ride is smoother ,the moise is way smaller compare to my prefacelift modes .They made the seats Longer,The seal better.However due to those rapid updates,Those China made model3 tends to Rattle and make funny noises.
CyberGus
Not Just a Member
I was recently invited into a JD Power survey of my ICE car. While the car has suffered no real defects, I was indeed offered the opportunity to complain about features I did not like. Of course, I have no idea how they score those things vs. actual defects, but the survey format implied that they do not make a distinction.
At the end, they let me share a message with the manufacturer, so I told them:
"This is the last ICE vehicle I will ever own."
I hope they get the message.
At the end, they let me share a message with the manufacturer, so I told them:
"This is the last ICE vehicle I will ever own."
I hope they get the message.
CyberGus
Not Just a Member
You think that's bad, wait until you see the Austin cashiers at Whole Foods lol
I hope Tesla didn't move to Texas to get away from the "slackers", we've got our own. In fact, the movie "Slacker" was filmed here in Austin:
Slacker (1990) - IMDb
Yeah, the whole keep Austin Weird thing is starting to get out of hand. We had enough weirdos in Austin before the mass exodus started from Cali to Austin. Glad I don't live there.
The truth hurts sometimes. They are a bunch of slackers. It's the only explanation for the horrible build quality that comes from their workmanship, or lack thereof.
Again, sorry.
I don’t think it’s a slacker issues. To me it’s more of a “we have to meet this by the end of the quarter” just push them out
CyberGus
Not Just a Member
Who is responsible for interviewing and hiring the workers? Management.
Who is responsible for training the workers? Management.
Who is responsible for motivating the workers? Management.
Who is responsible for monitoring, correcting, and if necessary replacing the workers? Management.
So who is responsible for poor build quality? Must be the workers, right?
Who is responsible for training the workers? Management.
Who is responsible for motivating the workers? Management.
Who is responsible for monitoring, correcting, and if necessary replacing the workers? Management.
So who is responsible for poor build quality? Must be the workers, right?
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