diamond.g
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How is the build quality of the Model 3 versus say the DeLorean DMC-12? They have built about the same amount of 3's as DeLorean did DMC-12, so the quality should be comparable no?
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Stiff suspension is not a manufacturing defect. It's there for a reason. I'm glad they tuned the Model 3 for sporty handling and hope this doesn't change because of people complaining. If you want soft compliant suspension there are plenty of options out there like Prius, Leaf etc. You should be thankful they modified it for you I don't think any dealership would do that for free.I would mostly agree with the article. my model 3 is a joy to drive but I've had numerous problems: hood misaligned, extremely stiff suspension, window malfunction causing it to scratch the chrome trim, many software glitches that required system reboot, loud clicking noise when car is off.
Went to the service center 3 times since owning the car in early January. They fixed everything except a creaking noise from the aero wheel caps, and a rattle noise from behind the steering wheel. I don't mind going back and patching these issues up since these things comes with being an early adopter, but what annoys me is the reps/mechanics at the service center tend to dismiss or deny the problem first. For example, the stiff suspension: first visit, they claim nothing wrong, nothing they can do. 2nd visit, adjust the tire pressure. 3rd visit, retrofit the suspension to make it less performance oriented.
As for my 2 pending issues, I demonstrated the problem to the reps when I dropped the car off. Even had a service rep drive the car around with me and he confirmed the rattle noise. When I got the car back... the invoice says "Mechanics could not replicate the problem". WTF. As for the crackling aero cap, my front driverside cap was crackling. I brought it in for service and they said they replaced the cap, but now the back driverside wheel is crackling. Makes me wonder if they didnt just swap the 2 caps.
Here's the issues when I picked up my car:
Problems with paint:
A LOT of scratches.
Excessive wax clumps.
Paint bump that needed to be sanded down.
Fit and Finish:
Misaligned hood.
Random numbers or series numbers embedded into the windshield (probably from a sticker that was left on there and baked in the sun, it took a long time to scrub out)
Ride Comfort:
VERY stiff suspension (heard this was fixed since early Jan with a revision to the springs and dampers)
Noise:
Clicking noise when car is off (they said it was from a faulty coolant pump, replaced it)
Rattle from air vent behind steering wheel (still hasn't been fixed)
Aero cover crackling noise (they replaced the front cap, then it happened to the rear one so it's still a pending issue)
Software:
Bluetooth call issues (static noise when answering a call) - this was probably fixed with a software update. I experienced this during the first 2 weeks, but never since.
Screen doesnt turn on, requires hard reset (just happened 3 days ago)
4G LTE doesnt work, requires a reset
This seems like a lot of issues to have with a brand new car. Is this an exception, or is this average for a M3 delivery?
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My comment was intended for all audiences involved in the snippiness move. I made an edit to the original post as well to make it less provocative.Just a question, but how are Bro1999's postings on the article in question not considered trolling? I mean, did he start this thread simply to be informative?
Spend 15 minutes on the GM website reading OP's posts and then draw your own conclusions.Trolling is defined as making posts for the sole purpose of eliciting emotional reactions in others. This behavior is also prohibited.
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Yay, we're keeping score! It's a game!My comment was intended for all audiences involved in the snippiness move. I made an edit to the original post as well to make it less provocative.
Posting an article critical of the vehicle is not a bad thing. Purposefully riling up members with provocative language is. Offenses are cumulative and are noted and recorded in the moderation software.
Hope this helps.
Would definitely appreciate the owners here to post a checklist of what to look for when picking up the car... If that already exists please let me know....
The concern with the checklist is the required remedial action for some issues. For the vehicle on display at Las Vegas with a poorly hung door and mis-aligned hood, it is likely that hinge adjustment would be required (assuming the hood stamping is to spec...not sure about that from looking at the radii). The result is what this same car showed for the trunk lid left hinge. It had been adjusted in an apparent attempt to re-fit that surface, and resulted in exposing apparently bare metal, sans paint and e-coat, along the margin of the hinge base plate, once moved. Now, a proper repair requires treating and painting that surface to original integrity, which they had not done, even for a prominent display vehicle. I would simply have refused delivery of such a new car. I've purchased/leased three vehicles in the last six months and none showed this low level of assembly quality that would need a panel re-aligned. The vehicle concept is so very attractive, but it's still just too soon.Someone on the the Tesla Reddit has a posted a good pick up checklist for the M3: Tesla Model 3 Delivery Checklist
I agree. I think this review is fair and neutral. If the goal is to have the best EVs on the market for the consumer to buy then it is important for Tesla (or any manufacturer) to take note of any problems with new products. My only wish, and it is pretty minor, is that she mention or quote some of the many, many owners that have reported immediate, professional, understanding and supportive attention to their concerns from the service centers and Tesla in general.I think this review might have gotten lost in the snippiness. It's fair, and extremely important.
Robin