juliusa
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They're all for sale; we're simply quibbling over the price. Even AOC. They're politicians.
Edit: well, not sure about Bernie.
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Edit: well, not sure about Bernie.
After Hitler double crossed Stalin, the Soviets lost about 20,000,000. Their survival was at stake. The harsh Russian winter contributed to Hitler’s failed campaign into the Soviet Union.
juliusa
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China chooses to ramp up coal instead of renewables. Really glad they signed on to the Paris Agreement.
www.wsj.com
China Takes the Brakes Off Coal Production to Tackle Power Shortage
The nation has ordered all coal mines to operate at full capacity, issued approvals for new mines and ordered major coal production bases in north and northwestern China to lower prices.
www.wsj.com
Yep, and some get so worked up that the US is the issue. Other places are far worse, and not matter who signed what,......China chooses to ramp up coal instead of renewables. Really glad they signed on to the Paris Agreement.
China Takes the Brakes Off Coal Production to Tackle Power Shortage
The nation has ordered all coal mines to operate at full capacity, issued approvals for new mines and ordered major coal production bases in north and northwestern China to lower prices.
JRP3
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Still no excuse for us not to do all we can, especially when there are real benefits to clean renewables. It's like saying because the person on the next block throws garbage on their yard you might as well do the same.
The domestic coal production increase is actually replacing coal imports.China chooses to ramp up coal instead of renewables. Really glad they signed on to the Paris Agreement.
China Takes the Brakes Off Coal Production to Tackle Power Shortage
The nation has ordered all coal mines to operate at full capacity, issued approvals for new mines and ordered major coal production bases in north and northwestern China to lower prices.
They stopped coal imports for political and economic reasons, most notably from Australia, and then they had a cold winter and COVID disruption that left them with inadequate domestic coal supply.
The Chinese government is shouting loud at the mines to distract from their policy that's the underlying cause.
It's similar to stopping immigration, seeing you have skill shortages and then shouting that businesses need to train more people.
juliusa
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Got a reference to that assertion? Seems they are increasing domestic production of coal AND increasing imports.
China’s rollback of restrictions on mining and imports
At Chinese ports, importers have been able to unload Australian coal—signaling a potential end to a yearlong ban on the trade
Perhaps we can agree they are increasing their usage of coal?
Here is an article from Reuters in March: China's coal consumption seen rising in 2021, imports steady
China’s coal consumption is expected to continue rising in 2021 despite Beijing’s pledges to boost the use of clean energy and curb greenhouse gas emissions, the China National Coal Association said on Wednesday.
China, the world’s biggest coal consumer, saw overall consumption of the fossil fuel increase by 0.6% in 2020 from a year earlier to around 4.04 billion tonnes, according to Reuters’ calculations based on official data.
Coal imports, however, are expected to remain at last year’s level, although the sources of coal shipments will be more diverse.
China has increased coal imports from Russia, Mongolia and Indonesia after Beijing stopped allowing any coal cargos from Australia to pass customs clearance in the fourth quarter last year. Relations between Beijing and Canberra have come under increasing strain amid a series of disputes.
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UN's Mark Carney says 'enormous' stranded assets show the need for a rapid energy transition
His comments come in the run-up to COP26, one of the most important climate summits ever held.
Earlier this year, the influential International Energy Agency concluded in a bombshell report that there should be no new oil, gas or coal development if the world was to reach net-zero fossil fuel emissions by 2050.
The likelihood of fossil fuel assets being rendered worthless underscores the need to decarbonize the world's economy as quickly as possible, according to Mark Carney, the U.N.'s special envoy on climate action and finance.
JRP3
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Steve Pearce
Sun, November 7, 2021, 3:35 AM·3 min read
Steve Pearce, who is running in the gubernatorial election, speaks on Thursday, Nov. 1, 2018, at La Posta Restaurant during his final appearance in Las Cruces before Tuesday's Election Day.
While Gov. Lujan Grisham is in Scotland touting the need to address climate change, President Biden, at the recent G-20, pleaded with other nations to increase their oil production to lower the price of gasoline. Maybe she should tell the president that New Mexico could produce the extra oil if he would quit strangling energy production with his brave new government regulations.
While in Scotland, the governor should take note at how Green Energy is destroying Europe. What began as an optimistic power policy in nations across that continent has led to an economic catastrophe.
Europe is experiencing power shortages, lost jobs, inflation spikes and a trickle down effect that’s hurting all of society.
This economic tidal wave will certainly awash New Mexico with a similar power crisis that will cause havoc if the state doesn’t address this soon.
It’s coming here.
New Mexico’s Energy Transition Act or “Green New Deal” is scheduled to move the state to carbon-free power by 50% in 2030, 80% in 2040 and 100% in 2045. The governor and progressive Democrats proudly boast of this 2019 green energy law they believe will mean cleaner power and happiness for all.
Wrong.
The European nations also thought that a green industrial revolution would change the world for the better. But the revolution backfired, and Europe is paying the price.
Europe has invested trillions of dollars toward renewable energy, but the great, green hope is costing big.
Hundreds of fossil fuel plants have shut down after leaders touted their rosy prediction that green energy will save the continent.
Wrong.
The sun didn’t shine. The wind didn’t blow. And because these elements are unreliable and mother nature didn’t cooperate, nations have had to desperately return to coal and natural gas to generate energy.
The sad irony is that this all led to increased demand. Coal then tripled in price and natural gas rose five-fold in just the last year.
The cost of soaring energy prices closed down production in many industries and had a ripple effect on manufacturing and other businesses that relied on fossil fuels. The cost of electricity is now astronomical because of the reliance on renewable energy.
When industries collapse, workers feel the pain and lose jobs. Homeowners feel the crunch as inflation skyrockets.
It’s a vicious cycle that began with a “green dream” that’s turned into an economic nightmare. European economies will feel the pain of their choices for decades because green energy has boomeranged.
The governor and progressive in the Roundhouse should pay attention. It will happen here in New Mexico if her “Green New Deal” continues its timetable.
When will this governor learn that our oil and gas industry is a golden goose that cannot be slain? It provides us with clean and affordable electricity and gasoline to visit family and friends. More than 40% of our state revenues come from this vital, reliable industry, one that pays for education and keeps the economic pulse moving.
If the “Green New Deal” moves forward, our economy will crumble, energy prices will soar and tens of thousands more New Mexicans will be unemployed.
Sun, November 7, 2021, 3:35 AM·3 min read
Steve Pearce, who is running in the gubernatorial election, speaks on Thursday, Nov. 1, 2018, at La Posta Restaurant during his final appearance in Las Cruces before Tuesday's Election Day.
While Gov. Lujan Grisham is in Scotland touting the need to address climate change, President Biden, at the recent G-20, pleaded with other nations to increase their oil production to lower the price of gasoline. Maybe she should tell the president that New Mexico could produce the extra oil if he would quit strangling energy production with his brave new government regulations.
While in Scotland, the governor should take note at how Green Energy is destroying Europe. What began as an optimistic power policy in nations across that continent has led to an economic catastrophe.
Europe is experiencing power shortages, lost jobs, inflation spikes and a trickle down effect that’s hurting all of society.
This economic tidal wave will certainly awash New Mexico with a similar power crisis that will cause havoc if the state doesn’t address this soon.
It’s coming here.
New Mexico’s Energy Transition Act or “Green New Deal” is scheduled to move the state to carbon-free power by 50% in 2030, 80% in 2040 and 100% in 2045. The governor and progressive Democrats proudly boast of this 2019 green energy law they believe will mean cleaner power and happiness for all.
Wrong.
The European nations also thought that a green industrial revolution would change the world for the better. But the revolution backfired, and Europe is paying the price.
Europe has invested trillions of dollars toward renewable energy, but the great, green hope is costing big.
Hundreds of fossil fuel plants have shut down after leaders touted their rosy prediction that green energy will save the continent.
Wrong.
The sun didn’t shine. The wind didn’t blow. And because these elements are unreliable and mother nature didn’t cooperate, nations have had to desperately return to coal and natural gas to generate energy.
The sad irony is that this all led to increased demand. Coal then tripled in price and natural gas rose five-fold in just the last year.
The cost of soaring energy prices closed down production in many industries and had a ripple effect on manufacturing and other businesses that relied on fossil fuels. The cost of electricity is now astronomical because of the reliance on renewable energy.
When industries collapse, workers feel the pain and lose jobs. Homeowners feel the crunch as inflation skyrockets.
It’s a vicious cycle that began with a “green dream” that’s turned into an economic nightmare. European economies will feel the pain of their choices for decades because green energy has boomeranged.
The governor and progressive in the Roundhouse should pay attention. It will happen here in New Mexico if her “Green New Deal” continues its timetable.
When will this governor learn that our oil and gas industry is a golden goose that cannot be slain? It provides us with clean and affordable electricity and gasoline to visit family and friends. More than 40% of our state revenues come from this vital, reliable industry, one that pays for education and keeps the economic pulse moving.
If the “Green New Deal” moves forward, our economy will crumble, energy prices will soar and tens of thousands more New Mexicans will be unemployed.
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