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Has anyone got updated map?

datoda

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Nov 14, 2018
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I drove down Rt. 3 from NH to MA yesterday, and found the highway exit signs had all been re-numbered, while the map on my Model 3 still showed the old numbers. My questions:

1. Has anyone got an updated map with the new numbers?
2. Have the signs on I95, I90, and I495 in MA been updated yet?

Thanks!
 

Tdreamer

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Sep 10, 2017
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Bedford, Massachusetts
From the info posted by MassDOT on New MassDOT Exit Numbering, it looks like most of the Mass renumbering work is complete with the exceptions of Rt 128 / I-95, and I-84. Rt 128/I-95 is underway - saw updated signs in the Gloucester area yesterday. Not sure about further down as I wasn't paying attention.

I have no idea when Tesla will be pushing updated maps out with renumbering.
 
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ModelNforNerd

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Apr 17, 2015
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Ayer, MA
From the info posted by MassDOT on New MassDOT Exit Numbering, it looks like most of the Mass renumbering work is complete with the exceptions of Rt 128 / I-95, and I-84. Rt 128/I-95 is underway - saw updated signs in the Gloucester area yesterday. Not sure about further down as I wasn't paying attention.

I have no idea when Tesla will be pushing updated maps out with renumbering.


everyone on the FSD Beat supposedly has newer maps than we do, so it's possible we'll all get a map push before FSD goes live. Not sure if they'll get the exit numbers in there, though.
 
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speedy

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Aug 21, 2017
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I have no idea when Tesla will be pushing updated maps out with renumbering.

Aren't the Tesla maps essentially Google maps? The current Google maps don't have updated exit numbers either and I doubt we'll get the updated exits until they show up on Google maps...
 

speedy

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Aug 21, 2017
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While I believe Tesla does use Google for traffic data, I think they use OpenStreetMap for the maps themselves. Not sure who owns updating those maps when exit numbers change. OpenStreetMap Wiki
In comparing the Tesla map detail and item of interests to Google maps, they look identical, right down to the number of reviews when you select an item of interest. Also, the satellite views also look like Google maps satellite views.
 

mociaf9

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Oct 18, 2018
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CA
In comparing the Tesla map detail and item of interests to Google maps, they look identical, right down to the number of reviews when you select an item of interest. Also, the satellite views also look like Google maps satellite views.
You're talking about different things. The display map and traffic information is from Google. The map data that the Autopilot computer uses is from OSM.
 
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speedy

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Aug 21, 2017
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You're talking about different things. The display map and traffic information is from Google. The map data that the Autopilot computer uses is from OSM.
Well, we ARE talking about the displayed navigation maps here, not any other data that they might use for AP or FSD...

How does Autopilot rationalize it when the Google navigation maps differ from it's OSM maps?
 

jlv1

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Oct 14, 2015
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I've lived in my current house for 30 years and only recently did I finally memorize what my exit number was on the Masspike. And that was only because my car would show me the exit number on the screen (via the nav) as I was approaching the exit. With the car's nav, I almost never pay attention to exit numbers as "exit in 2 miles" is far more useful.
 

CaliSurfer

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From what I have experienced, the navigation route data isn't lined up with the map data. We recently had a roundabout installed near my house and the maps images show the new roundabout but when navigating, the Tesla directions do not notice that there is a roundabout there and have the same instructions as before it was constructed. I'm interested if there is a way to submit for direction or map corrects like Google and Waze allow.
 
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eladts

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Jul 31, 2016
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From what I have experienced, the navigation route data isn't lined up with the map data. We recently had a roundabout installed near my house and the maps images show the new roundabout but when navigating, the Tesla directions do not notice that there is a roundabout there and have the same instructions as before it was constructed. I'm interested if there is a way to submit for direction or map corrects like Google and Waze allow.

I think the reason for having different source for navigation data and display data is that Google does not allow third parties to do offline navigation using their data.
 

David29

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Aug 1, 2015
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DEDHAM, MA
I think the reason for having different source for navigation data and display data is that Google does not allow third parties to do offline navigation using their data.
From what I have read before, it is more about money. Google maps would charge for using their maps and tesla presumably chooses not to pay their price.
 

eladts

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Jul 31, 2016
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From what I have read before, it is more about money. Google maps would charge for using their maps and tesla presumably chooses not to pay their price.

Google are already charging for usage of their Map API which Tesla uses. The use of the API used to be free in the past and many sites like supercharge.info used it, but once Google hiked the prices these sites moved to more affordable alternatives. However at no time did any third-party had access to offline navigation from Google. The Google Maps Platform Terms of Service forbids customers from "pre-fetch, index, store, reshare, or rehost Google Maps Content outside the services".
 
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