Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Makes sense. Personally, I am good with this as a safety device under these parameters.
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Has anyone taken delivery of a new Model S and opted for the steering wheel?
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Makes sense. Personally, I am good with this as a safety device under these parameters.
Mark II
Member
It does not always work for me, mainly because it requires you to accidently press the horn button with the plam of your hand. Depending on the size and shape of your hand, and the orientation of the yoke, it is not always going to work. A horn should work 100% of the time. Not when all the stars happen to align. Even if it works 80% of the time, it is not good enough for a safety feature.
FirstInTown
Member
The capacitive horn button should be illegal as it doesn't work with gloves on! Sure I have 'iphone gloves with a capacitive tips' but the whole palm solution doesn't work.
Before the defenders say don't wear gloves and preheat, when it's -40 here in the North Woods, we have to wear gloves. We are so remote, the ATT cell service doesn't work at home so we can't wake the car from the app to preheat.
Plus 1.5 years ago weren't we lied to and told all S/X at that point had hardware for center horn already, just waiting for software to enable?
No I'm not giving them $700 for a better wheel as they aren't fixing the enogronomic nightmare that the stalkless design it.
Before the defenders say don't wear gloves and preheat, when it's -40 here in the North Woods, we have to wear gloves. We are so remote, the ATT cell service doesn't work at home so we can't wake the car from the app to preheat.
Plus 1.5 years ago weren't we lied to and told all S/X at that point had hardware for center horn already, just waiting for software to enable?
No I'm not giving them $700 for a better wheel as they aren't fixing the enogronomic nightmare that the stalkless design it.
Which “right”? Because that thing is turning, you know? “Right is not what you think it is” (TM)
FYI: Even if you get the wheel you don’t get the stalks or real buttons.
n2mb_racing
Active Member
Exactly. The yoke isn't the problem. It's the lack of stalks and real buttons.
I seconds that. The missing stalks is the bad thing. Even the turn signal is okay but to me the high beams and the wiper is very annoying. Especially the wiper. Especially since the auto function is just bad. Arghhh... and why can't we have a phone button? Neither of those are fixed in the regular wheel version. So I ordered an S just now and went for the yoke again. There is one thing that I super dig about the yoke though beside that it looks cool to me. (And yes! Cool matters!) But I really like how I can rest my left hand on the top left of the yoke while my elbow is resting on the door. The weight of my hand is just enough to keep the autopilot warning at bay and it is also comfy. I guess this depends on your arm length and other things but for me it is just perfect. Now I use the AP all the time on highways.
Mark II
Member
I do agree, I hate everything about the yoke, except that it works better with nag. In my case I hold the right bottom side and rest my right arm on the armrest. Works perfectly! I hardly ever gets nags.
I don’t miss stalks at all, but I understand the matter of preference. The horn in center seems reasonable.
My main gripe with yoke is lack of vegan leather which I think they will fix eventually. I also am a bit surprised that the hand positions of the yoke 9&3 aren’t as comfortable… I’m not sure what it is about the round wheel but I feel like my hands hang on the wheel as opposed to the yoke where I feel like I’m pulling it towards me constantly… subtle but interesting.
Hands at the bottom of yoke are super great though.
I’ve ordered the round wheel for wifey though.
My main gripe with yoke is lack of vegan leather which I think they will fix eventually. I also am a bit surprised that the hand positions of the yoke 9&3 aren’t as comfortable… I’m not sure what it is about the round wheel but I feel like my hands hang on the wheel as opposed to the yoke where I feel like I’m pulling it towards me constantly… subtle but interesting.
Hands at the bottom of yoke are super great though.
I’ve ordered the round wheel for wifey though.
Took the Model 3 out today for a bit -- definitely confirmed my plan to replace the yoke with a round wheel. I'm sure the yoke is great for some folks - I'm not one of them.
Tesla needs to focus on their actual revolutionary technology (batteries, carbon wrapped rotors etc) not reinvententing the wheel, literally. Gimicky crap that actually degrades the experience. Things are the way they are in legacy vehicles because they actually work well. Round steering wheels, stalks, control knobs, center horn on and on.
It's extremely easy to make any kind of turn with the Yoke. I use it everyday and love it. Never going back to a round wheel.
zoomer0056
Active Member
Our 2015 Honda Crosstour doesn't have a center horn. It also doesn't have USS bumper sensors, but that's another thread. The horn is operated by hitting the embossed horn symbols on either side of the wheel. The horn fulcrum is at the center of the wheel. The closer you get to the center of the wheel the harder it is to honk, the center will not honk.
zoomer0056
Active Member
I wonder if this is even on their RADAR at all during NHTSA testing. Does NHTSA care about horn activation?
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
Let’s all agree that still is considered the center…
zoomer0056
Active Member
Mark II
Member
In addition, it is not a single tiny button, but rather two large areas that are hard to miss.
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
Not really. It’s not on the center part of the yoke. It’s a flat, tiny haptic button in the smooth plastic.
