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Has anyone tested Falcon Wing Door stopping sensitivity?

Discussion in 'Model X' started by proven, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. proven

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    I haven't heard anyone talking about if the FWD will stop if someone's fingers are up near the roof where it closes. Has anyone tested it (maybe not with your fingers at first!)? I understand that it is supposed to stop when it encounters resistance, but I wonder if hands/fingers are more vulnerable up top where it may take more force to trigger the door to stop.
     
  2. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    I'm trying to imagine a scenario where I'd have my hand in that position, at the roof line - the door lowers from above, so you'd have to be in a somewhat awkward position. Am I missing something?
     
  3. proven

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    I can picture my 5 year old standing up in the car with his hands up near where the door seals.
     
  4. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    Ah, sorry. I thought you were saying from the outside and just couldn't wrap my head around that. I haven't tried fingers in the seal at the top, but the doors are pretty sensitive to any resistance. I have let it try to close on my hand resting on the side of the door frame. And it stopped right away.
     
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    That's good to know that it stops quickly. I'm fairly certain my kids will actually listen to me about the doors but you never know with my son!
     
  6. Phil Seastrand

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    Try it with a hotdog, should be similar to a finger in size and pressure.
     
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    Good suggestion for any of those potential pinch zones.
     
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    Even my little dog has learned to stay clear of the doors when the warning beep goes off. That said there are moving parts and will likely be a Darwin candidate who finds a spot and gets pinched. So far the doors seem to be almost too sensitive to any possible object.
     
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    If the FWD stops several times bechause of an obstacle (like the trunk), are you able to pull them down manually like the trunk hatch?
    In case of malfunctioning sensor :)
     
  10. Winston

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    If you press and hold the inside button, the one on the side of the door or hold the top button on the fob while pressing a door button it will force close. Or at least that's what I think I read in the manual.
     
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    Well, actually with my MS factory delivery in Tilburg, Netherlands, my delivery specialist put his head between the trunk and car. QED [emoji6].
     
  12. Roamer

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    Darwin is indeed still with us. The evolution is not yet complete.

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    Since my left Falcon is a little sensitive ( still haven't taken it in to see the Tesla therapists ) I have done force open and close many times. You can force open or force close from the flat panel, the door pillar, the outside handle ( is it a handle ? ), the button on the rear door side and using the key fob. Obviously not all buttons are accessible in all positions.

    My my only warning is that when you do a force open or close you are overriding the door sensors and can bump the doors into things.
     
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    But does the motors assist in this force close, or is it pure manual movement of the door like the trunk?
    It sounds like motor driven closing, but you need to press and hold one of the buttons? Or am I misunderstanding?
     
  14. Winston

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    It closes the door as normal, but won't stop even if it detects something in the way.
     
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    Allow me to suggest that you shove that hot dog into the finger socket of a rubber glove first. I don't think anyone wants mashed hot dog juice on their alacantra.
     
  16. Roamer

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    The motors don't "assist", they do the entire job, up or down. Pressing and holding the desired activation button just overrides the sensors, both the load limit and the object detectors. Holding the activation button works. The available smash force is then limited by the power of the actuators. The actuators are not large hydraulic rams capable of great force.

    Just to clarify my earlier response. When my drivers side Falcon opens six inches then stalls the only action required to finish the open cycle is a second quick push of the outside door handle and then the door finishes the open cycle. The original comment described a problem that when it stalled people in the car (kids) needed to deal with it. I was pointing out that if you push the outside handle button for an open and it moves a few inches and stalls out all that is needed is a second push of the outside handle button and it will open. If that doesn't work pushing and holding any activation button will force it open or close. In this situation movement is slowed and bump sensors are not protecting the movement.

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    Cook it first so it can be eaten after testing is completed. Maybe bring some condiments to the test site.

    Who will be the first to run the test with a frozen frank and declare the system amazing in a YouTube video.
     

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