I have an early 2021 model 3 with radar. I have noticed with software update 2022.40.4.2 if I am on autopilot on a dark dual carriageway with no cars in front of me but cars travelling the other way so the headlights are on dip the car wants to slow to 40mph ish! and comes with the warning. slowing down because of tesla vision (or some word similar to this). I've done 20k miles in this car and this has never happened before. This sucks and is dangerous have tesla removed the use of radar?
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Rooster6655
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Yes, only thing you can do is raise a service request for them to provide feedback to someone, no choice but to wait these bugs out!
spooksman
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I guess it depends when exactly you take updates, but the removal of radar in favour of vision only was about 3 months ago.
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I'm not sure of the actual scenario you are describing though, my June 2022 Model 3 was built without radar, and I've never had that experience. It might slow when there is poor visibility e.g. rain etc. but that seems reasonable enough to me, I would drive more slowly.
2022.24.6 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates
Tesla software update 2022.24.6 includes Tesla Vision Update, Blind Spot Camera, Tesla Profiles, Traffic Along Route, Disable Sentry Sounds, Driver Profiles, Auto Rear Climate Controls, Additional Bottom Bar Customization, Regenerative Braking, GPS Directions, Tire Pressure, Uninstall Games...
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I'm not sure of the actual scenario you are describing though, my June 2022 Model 3 was built without radar, and I've never had that experience. It might slow when there is poor visibility e.g. rain etc. but that seems reasonable enough to me, I would drive more slowly.
Refusing to do even 30mph when visibility is good for 60mph is not “reasonable”I guess it depends when exactly you take updates, but the removal of radar in favour of vision only was about 3 months ago.
2022.24.6 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates
Tesla software update 2022.24.6 includes Tesla Vision Update, Blind Spot Camera, Tesla Profiles, Traffic Along Route, Disable Sentry Sounds, Driver Profiles, Auto Rear Climate Controls, Additional Bottom Bar Customization, Regenerative Braking, GPS Directions, Tire Pressure, Uninstall Games...
I'm not sure of the actual scenario you are describing though, my June 2022 Model 3 was built without radar, and I've never had that experience. It might slow when there is poor visibility e.g. rain etc. but that seems reasonable enough to me, I would drive more slowly.
That's never remotely been my experience, and no one else has been saying the same. I would suggest raising a service request.
My car kept reducing the cruise control speed this morning due to bad visibility. It was perfectly clear and dry. I intervened before it could reduce by more than 10 mph.
Jason71
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it was perfectly clear looking through the bit of the windscreen you were using but was there condensation on any of the cameras? A common occurrence this time of year. The front one is heated but the others are prone to this. Heating element on the front one has been known to fail as well.
Good point (and Andy above) could be condensation or frost on the cameras. Not sure how you solve this. They probably need a supplemental system other than just cameras...............
Jason71
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Whenever someone comes out with the "we manage with vision only so the car should be able to as well" mantra
I like to point out that I my eyes have a self cleaning mechanism and the car not so much.
Which, effectively, means that vision only on the car doesn’t work.
That doesn't really make sense, as your eyes look through the same windscreen glass. You can't blink away a misted windscreen. The cameras aren't very likely to get dirty in that way.
Isn't there a heating element in the glass around the cameras as well, something must be broke if it's misting and the rest of the windscreen is clear ?
Jason71
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Only the windscreen one as far as i know. The B pillar ones suffer from condensation, frost, and blinding and as far as I know they are unable to cry, blink or wear sunglasses
It would also be worth checking the list of notifications that are retained in the Service section of the screen info. I sometimes find that there are some items listed even though I never saw any notification on the screen at the time. (In case there was a note there about camera issues.)
Cnixon
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