This spot is literally iced--solid mound of snow plowed into one of the EV slots, then rain and frigid temps...
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Thanks goes to Chris Sharek for creating this. I printed them on business cards to put on windshields here in Florida.
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I completely agree with you, however, the reason this happens is most likely due to power and security. It costs to run those power lines to the far reaches of the parking lot. Also if I am going to spend my money putting in valuable electrical equipment I want it somewhere close where I can keep an eye on it better.IMHO it's a mistake to create EV charging spots in convenient places. Almost all the time these spots are right in front, the best parking spots, the ones that everyone wants. This is just asking for people to ignore the signs and park there. Everyone wants to have these preferred parking spots thus they are more likely to get ICEd. If the EV charging spots were at less desirable places of the parking lot or parking structure, the problem of getting ICEd would be much less. I really don't mind going up two more levels in a parking structure or walking a little from an outer parking spot if that increases my chances to find a free charger.
BTW, of the SpC's I've visited, Glenwood Springs is the most likely to be ICEed (it's in a Marriott parking lot that seems small for the size of the hotel); I noticed yesterday when I stopped there that someone has stacked a couple of orange cones by one of the pedestals, presumably so that hotel staff can deploy them in front of Supercharger bays when the hotel is expecting a full house. I think this is a good idea; I hope other Supercharger hosts adopt it.
I completely agree with you, however, the reason this happens is most likely due to power and security. It costs to run those power lines to the far reaches of the parking lot. Also if I am going to spend my money putting in valuable electrical equipment I want it somewhere close where I can keep an eye on it better.
Followup from post#68 - the EVSE's are operational, and here is the signage my condo (part hotel) will use when parking gets busy in the spring/summer, to be managed by the front desk staff:
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I suspect you are absolutely correct about power runs being one of the primary factors in where stations are located. I also agree that remote locations would be preferable not only from an ICEing perspective, but also in reducing the door-ding quotient.
Unfortunately, I don't see an easy solution to those issues. I think active management participation (signage, cones, etc...) is what we can all encourage...
So I took what Chris got started, which is so great, and I evolved it into this - feel free to download and print it out. I am going to keep them in my car at all times.
I think she was.... AND MAKE IT SEEM LIKE YOU'RE SHOUTING AT THE READER....
I assume you've requested they install high amp level 2 chargers rather than 30A output (40A circuit) which seems to be the default choice because that's what were installed with the government grants. Is there a significant difference in cost to run power for 60 or 100A circuits compared to 40A?I am consulting with a new community center on where to put a pair of J1772 EVSE's and spaces. The issue of cost to run the power is an important one.
I am consulting with a new community center on where to put a pair of J1772 EVSE's and spaces. The issue of cost to run the power is an important one. The community center will have a good size pre-school and early childhood center. The current plan that I like, is to put the EV charge spaces at the least convenient end of some 15-minute, drop-off/pick-up spaces for the preschool parents, and mark the EV charge spaces as dual use. These spaces can be used for 15-minute, drop-off/pick-up as well as EV charging. I think this will be more acceptable to the general community and is a good use of the valuable parking spaces.
I assume you've requested they install high amp level 2 chargers rather than 30A output (40A circuit) which seems to be the default choice because that's what were installed with the government grants. Is there a significant difference in cost to run power for 60 or 100A circuits compared to 40A?
Good idea, Leilani. My graphic designer self requests that you redesign the card without ALL-CAPS everywhere: it's a pet peeve of mine. ALL-CAPS ARE HARD TO READ AND MAKE IT SEEM LIKE YOU'RE SHOUTING AT THE READER. See what I mean? :biggrin:
As for ICEing, I'm up to 10 Superchargers visited, most at least twice, and have never been ICEed. This is partly just timing, and luck, but it's mostly because Tesla has indeed sited the charging bays in remote areas of the parking lots.
BTW, of the SpC's I've visited, Glenwood Springs is the most likely to be ICEed (it's in a Marriott parking lot that seems small for the size of the hotel); I noticed yesterday when I stopped there that someone has stacked a couple of orange cones by one of the pedestals, presumably so that hotel staff can deploy them in front of Supercharger bays when the hotel is expecting a full house. I think this is a good idea; I hope other Supercharger hosts adopt it.