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Hawaii Superchargers

Discussion in 'Hawaii' started by Polly Wog, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. TerranApart

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    Still no hits in the Honolulu and Maui county permit databases (aside from the Lanai supercharger that has its own thread now).
    I'm running my searching program every Monday, scanning the past week's permits, looking for the keywords: tesla, telsa, charger, charging
    If you can think of any other keywords that should be added to the search list, let me know. :)
    The permit listings are cached on my computer from January 2018 to December 2020, so I can run additional searches really quickly if necessary.
     
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  2. Akikiki

    Akikiki A'-Lo-HA ! y'all

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    Yeah, Ellison. Now if we could just get him to buy a house on Oahu too.
     
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  3. Akikiki

    Akikiki A'-Lo-HA ! y'all

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    Akikiki A'-Lo-HA ! y'all

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  5. LN1_Casey

    LN1_Casey Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

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    Hopefully with the publicity, the rest of Hawaii will be encouraged to finally open the Superchargers on Oahu.
     
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  6. TerranApart

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  7. nanimac

    nanimac Aloha!

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    Probably just universal charger to meet requirement. Shopping center is small and owned by Kamehameha Schools. Don't think their beneficiaries would appreciate supporting Tesla super chargers. o_O
     
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  8. Akikiki

    Akikiki A'-Lo-HA ! y'all

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    Probably accurate. I wonder how many of the KS trustees drive Teslas?
     
  9. halcyon64

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    i had a crazy idea. i dont know if its already been suggested but i think they outta convert expiring supercharger miles to months of premium connectivity.
     
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  10. Hawnboy

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    I'm not a trustee but a graduate and a proud Tesla M3 owner!
     
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  11. Akikiki

    Akikiki A'-Lo-HA ! y'all

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    Congratulations !! Though belayed I am sure. My smart a$$ remark was certainly not intended as an attack to anyone or any group.

    But it would be nice, useful, a great gesture to allow the Tesla to use a piece of lesser attractive real estate for Superchargers.
     
  12. Hawnboy

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    Not a problem. We live in the USA and all comments are welcome. Well most.
     
  13. LN1_Casey

    LN1_Casey Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

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    So, the Kaneohe prospective charger has vanished, but the Honolulu one now says, "Target opening Q2 2021."

    Has it ever said a quarter before?
     
  14. Polly Wog

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    Nope, and now Maui says Kahului (not just generically Maui) with a target of 2022. The fact that several places on the mainland where permits have just recently been granted have targets of Q1 2021 and Q2 2021 make me think that they are actually trying to be more accurate in their projections. Time will tell!
     
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  15. TerranApart

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    Q2 2021 for a Honolulu supercharger is not too far off, so if that timing is truly accurate, the permit should be showing up soon!
    I'll keep scanning the permits, maybe increasing the frequency to multiple times per week.
     
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  16. brocklee

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    "Something else seems to be going on here..."
    It's probably the onerous, slow, bureaucratic, and corrupt permitting system. This has led to a profound affordable housing shortage, the fact that Chik-Fil-A is not here etc... (Tesla isn't the only business that can't seem to get building done in Hawaii.)
     
  17. Wreckz

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    I guess @Akikiki was right charging at HECO cost almost the same as,gas,
     
  18. Akikiki

    Akikiki A'-Lo-HA ! y'all

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    I guess they are getting even for all the Net Metering solar out here.
     
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  19. TerranApart

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    Looking at HECO rate schedules for commercial customers, it looks like the killer costs are the demand charges.
    In other words, the per-kWh costs are pretty normal and expected for HECO, similar to residential. But the overall kW peak demand charges (something residential accounts don't have) can cost a lot, especially for an electrical load that may hit very high peaks, such an EV charging station with a larger number of stalls.

    Because of these demand charges, it benefits Tesla/HECO/ChargePoint/Volta/etc to try and keep the overall peak demand for the charging station as low and steady as possible.
    For this reason, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see larger charging stations resorting to battery storage to help smooth out the peaks. It also might allow the charging station operator to use a time-of-use plan and charge the batteries in the morning and early afternoon for discharge during the evening peak.

    I'm sure HECO prices their DCFC higher per kWh than some of the Level2 chargers because of the higher peaks. (50kW HECO vs 6.6kW level 2, for example) It's probably also for lack of competition, so...Tesla, get moving, please! :)
     
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