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Hello, rear radar :-)

Discussion in 'Autopilot & Autonomous/FSD' started by lunitiks, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. lunitiks

    lunitiks Cool James & Black Teacher

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    Can't remember when or where I found this pic on the interwebs.. But it sure as eggs raises a question or two ;)

    /runs and ducks/

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  2. MP3Mike

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    My guess would be that was a Model 3 getting a wrap, obviously, and probably getting a radar/laser detector/jammer installed at the same time.
     
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  3. lunitiks

    lunitiks Cool James & Black Teacher

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    Well it looks OEM to me... Check out those bracket holes for the wiring clips, plus the way the wire is fastened to the chassis

    m3_rr2.JPG
     
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  4. MP3Mike

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    Some installers do a really nice job...

    It would be helpful if you had any idea where the image came from. (I tried to do an image search and Google didn't find it.)

    I'm not sure if Tesla would run a cable all the way down and under the car like that or not.
     
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  5. croman

    croman Active Member

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    There is no way they add a rear radar while selling 100k cars without it. No way Tesla survives the lawsuits if they don't have a plan to retrofit for free if they are adding it.

    I tend to agree with @MP3Mike because it's a simple solution to the issue presented and the simpler solution is more often correct.
     
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    I always thought they’d need a rear radar FSD, I’m driving but that looks suspiciously like the front radar and bracket. Crazy good find @lunitiks
     
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  7. BigD0g

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    Except that cable is coming out of the drivers side back quarter panel, not underneath the car. No way an installer is doing that for a radar detector. We need to google for images of the front radar and compare the 2.

    Or, someone with a newer car, take off that bumper and have a peek....
     
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  8. chillaban

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    The size and shape looks more like a Stinger VIP radar antenna to me.
     
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    Looks like a good install but not OEM. Plus, wouldn't we have seen it in the wiring and maybe even a plug for it in the M3 APE?

    Would expect rear corner radar(s) for AP that are not pointing upwards ...

    But who knows for sure? :)
     
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  10. lunitiks

    lunitiks Cool James & Black Teacher

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    I still think that bracket looks a little too appropriate for the wiring clips
     
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    All I know is, if this is announced without a concomitant plan to upgrade FSD purchasers (or a plan to buy back my car), I'll get to meet Elon because I'm going to file suit and notice a dep for him and the other Tesla All-Stars. This would be an epic slap across the face.
     
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  12. Galve2000

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    What is that color? And where do I get it done?
     
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  13. Az_Rael

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    Looks like one that unplugged performance did.

    Here is another pic from their shop:

    Screenshot 2018-02-18 11.49.18.png
     
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  14. MP3Mike

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    It sure looks like it goes all the way down under the quarter panel to me:
    m3_rr under.jpg
     
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  15. MP3Mike

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    @UnpluggedP Can you give us any information on this car? Did you install a radar/laser system in it?
     
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  16. bswn1

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    Assuming this would be part of AP HW2.5 and we would have seen something in the firmware.
     
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    googleiscoul 3 months maybe, 6 months definitely......

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    AP 2 - AP 2.5 is going to end really messy for Tesla and many will lose faith in the company...... FSD and EAP are doomed..... I don't know what to say at this point. We haven't gotten anything we were promised up to this point besides a crappy emulation of AP1. And Elon used to keep dismissing the claims but now it seems he is really stuck and doesn't know what to do.. I really hope Tesla has a plan of action within the next few months because they've already fallen far far behind what we thought were their "competitors". I really don't think they thought through the hardware before releasing AP 2 and now they have realized it and are playing it off as "not a big deal", while their autopilot team leaders are leaving due to them knowing they messed up. Only things elon talks about now are flamethrowers, launching cars into space, and fixing M3 glove box issues. Lets hope this isn't the beginning of the end for Tesla..... I really hope they release some good stuff in Q1 & Q2.
     
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  18. BigD0g

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    @Ingineer how about a shot of the back bumper, can you confirm the rear radar, that would be huge.... or @wk057 if you have access to an ap 2.5 or later car?
     
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  19. Reeler

    Reeler Decade of Pure EV Driving

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    FSD is silicon snake oil. Never going to happen with the current sensor suite.
     
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  20. doubleohwhat

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    I've read that AP2.5 cars have additional wiring pre-installed. Does anyone know what kind of sensors the wiring is for?
     

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