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Help me decide: Model Y or Mach-E

In late September, I placed a deposit on the the Model Y ($53,990 for Long Range, Pearl White, 19" Gemini, Black Interior) and the Mach-E ($53,100 for Premium, Extended Range, RWD, Grabber Blue). Both were originally scheduled to be delivered in April, though the MY is now showing a Feb 19 - March 19 delivery. I can only buy one. There are still many months before I need to decide. As of today, I am exactly 50/50 on which I will pick. Some of this decision will depend on the available tax credit at the time of purchase. Hopefully congress gets its act together and both get a credit next year. If one is substantially cheaper due to a tax credit I will likely go that way (though hard to say if the MY shows up without a credit and the Mach-E still has one but is still months away from delivery).

Anyway, I need your help! I've put together a list of pros and cons in the fine tradition of Benjamin Franklin and Walter White. These lists are specific to my own decision, as I see it. Please let me know if any of these considerations are off base, or if there is anything else I should be considering. I will post the two lists in subsequent posts.

And full disclosure... I also cross-posted the same lists on a Tesla forum. It will be interesting to see the differences in replies... Here are the lists:

Advantage Tesla Model Y
  • Known reliability. Tesla has been making EVs for a while now, and has straightened out a lot of early production issues. Ford is just getting started, so there are likely to be a lot more issues for the first few years. Will a 2022 Mach-E be as reliable as a 2022 Model Y? What will the difference in cost of ownership be in 10 years?
  • Polished UI. The touchscreen is really snappy, whereas the Mach-E touchscreen is sluggish. The Tesla software seems a little more refined too.
  • Supercharger network. I have a lot more confidence that I won’t get stranded on long trips.
  • Joy of driving. I’ve seen plenty of YouTube videos of people testing these two cars side by side and stating they enjoy driving the Tesla more, especially comparing the one pedal driving. Granted most of these people are Tesla owners, but not all. I have taken a test drive in both, and Tesla even gave me an overnight test drive. I will admit, the Tesla did feel a bit more responsive on the pedal, though it wasn't a huge difference.
  • Performance. The Model Y base model does 0-60 mph in 4.8 seconds, and comes with AWD standard. The Mach-E RWD model I ordered does it in 6.1. Yes, I could upgrade to the AWD model and achieve 4.8, but this is an extra $2.7K. (Aside, I actually prefer the longer range and cheaper price which is why I’m not upgrading the Mach-E.)
  • Cargo capacity. 68 cu ft vs 60 doesn’t seem like much, but it could make the difference. I am choosing a hatchback for a reason: I want to carry things.
  • Autopilot. As of today, Tesla’s autopilot is more capable than Ford’s version. Ford is still developing theirs, so this could change. I have no interest in FSD.

Advantage Ford Mach-E
  • Body Style. The Mach-E looks great. The body looks muscular. The LED projector headlights on the Premium look amazing, as do the taillights. I also like the futuristic look of the Model Y, but not as much.
  • Paint and color. I ordered the Grabber Blue and love this color! I would almost buy the car just for the color. The Tesla looks good in white, but I don’t think is as much a head turner. Also, I’ve heard credible stories of lower paint quality control on the Tesla, including orange peeling, dust nibs, swirl marks, and more susceptibility to chipping. That last one is a particular concern, as a good paint job shouldn’t easily chip.
  • Build quality. The Mach-E feels solid, and well built. Tesla is known for its inconsistent build quality, including panel gaps, loose parts, and water leaks.
  • Novelty. There are Teslas everywhere. I don’t need to be the only one owning my car, but I’m not sure if it would feel as special if every parking lot I pull into has 10 other cars identical to mine.
  • Dashboard screen behind steering wheel. I just want to see an instrument cluster behind the steering wheel. I don’t like that I have to look to the side to see my speed and range on the Model Y. Plus, the upper left of the Model Y screen just looks unpolished to me. The Mach-E does this much better.
  • Physical controls. The Mach-E has physical controls for adjusting the side mirrors, direction of the climate control, a latch to open the glove box, turn on/off interior lights, and operate the windshield wipers. The Model Y does these through the touchscreen. Who wants to adjust their wipers through a touchscreen.
  • Garage door opener. The Mach-E has a real garage door opener in the visor. I have to pay $350 to get this feature in the Model Y touchscreen, which I’m not about to do. I prefer a real button anyway.
  • Apple CarPlay. Why doesn’t the Tesla have this? It’s just stupid.
  • Long company track record. Ford has been here from the start. Tesla is a newcomer, run by a a guy who seems slightly crazy. Will they be around in 10 years?
 
And full disclosure... I also cross-posted the same lists on a Tesla Mach-E forum. It will be interesting to see the differences in replies... Here are the lists:
Clear evidence of cut and paste! Anyway, I'm not looking for a balanced perspective from this forum and wanting to know from you all why the Model Y is the one to pick. Unless you are a disgruntled MY owner, in which case, why not Model Y.
 
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I know this is obviously a Tesla forum, but the Mach E isn’t compelling. It’s ugly, real world range isn’t great, and it’s a Ford. Tesla has been in the battery game a long time now. Not ford.

Get the Y and don’t look back.
Your point about Tesla's experiences with batteries is key, and a top reason why the Model Y is a strong contender for me. No doubt Ford is very late to the game here, and I do wonder how many issues they will have in the first few years. As far as the appearance, it is true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In a beauty contest, the Mach-E wins if I'm judging. But I do like the look of the Model Y, just not as much. Now if only Tesla had better colors...
 
It’s hard to make any comparisons of other EVs as the supercharger network is what makes owning a Tesla so nice ! Until other automakers come with a nationwide network I won’t drive any other EV but Tesla ..my own opinion :)
I raised this point to my Ford salesman, and he pulled a Tesla supercharger adapter for the Mach-E from his desk and stated that it could be used at Tesla superchargers. I haven't done any research to see if this was true. At any rate, 99% of my charging will be in my own garage, so the supercharger network isn't really going to be the deciding factor for me.
 
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I raised this point to my Ford salesman, and he pulled a Tesla supercharger adapter for the Mach-E from his desk and stated that it could be used at Tesla superchargers. I haven't done any research to see if this was true. At any rate, 99% of my charging will be in my own garage, so the supercharger network isn't really going to be the deciding factor for me.
Fair enough ..not sure about adaptor working in US ..for me it’s about driving the car anywhere like I would do an ICE ..when you drive electric , at least in my case I ended up driving more and for longer distances ..I also charge in garage but for me driving longer distances with the Tesla network is a gamechanger in the EV world
 
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My personal opinion is, this entire thread is the exact same question as the second link you provided, and this thread should be moved into that one. Im not a moderator in this section though, and I dont know if the mods for this section agree with me.

If the OP actually wants what people in this forum think (rather than just having their own thread), that is a 22 page thread on this exact topic provided by @Dennisis ,which I will re link again:

 
I raised this point to my Ford salesman, and he pulled a Tesla supercharger adapter for the Mach-E from his desk and stated that it could be used at Tesla superchargers. I haven't done any research to see if this was true. At any rate, 99% of my charging will be in my own garage, so the supercharger network isn't really going to be the deciding factor for me.
AFAIK, you can not currently charge a Mach-E on the Tesla supercharger network. Sounds like a typical car salesman, telling you what you want to hear.

There is speculation that Tesla will open up charging to other vehicles in the (near?) future, but this is not at all clear at this point. My best guess is that it will coincide with Federal money to expand charging capabilities.

If most charging will be in your garage, it's less likely of an issue - However, for the one-off trip, don't plan on the Tesla Network if you buy the Mach-E.
 
This was an interesting video, but I have to ask... should this make a difference in my decition? I think the purpose of the video was to say that the Ford design had more parts than it needed, and could be simplified allowing Ford to save money and weight. Not surprising for a first generation design. I think this is related to the top advantage I listed for the Tesla over the Ford, specifically "Tesla has been making EVs for a while now, and has straightened out a lot of early production issues."
 

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There is speculation that Tesla will open up charging to other vehicles in the (near?) future, but this is not at all clear at this point. My best guess is that it will coincide with Federal money to expand charging capabilitie
My understanding is EU only . Possibly the sales person pulled out a L2 adaptor and said he could use that lol ..but everything I have read so far is the Tesla network in US was not what that original comment about opening up to other vehicles was about
 
This was an interesting video, but I have to ask... should this make a difference in my decition? I think the purpose of the video was to say that the Ford design had more parts than it needed, and could be simplified allowing Ford to save money and weight. Not surprising for a first generation design. I think this is related to the top advantage I listed for the Tesla over the Ford, specifically "Tesla has been making EVs for a while now, and has straightened out a lot of early production issues."
How long do you keep cars? If you change them like socks who cars what rats nest of hoses is in there.
You're right! this point should have been top of my list!
if you have young kids this matters!
 
My understanding is EU only . Possibly the sales person pulled out a L2 adaptor and said he could use that lol ..but everything I have read so far is the Tesla network in US was not what that original comment about opening up to other vehicles was about
Not surprising! I admit, my BS detector went off when I heard him tell me I could charge a Mach-E at the Tesla supercharger network though I never followed up. It's a pretty strong selling point for the Tesla, so I can't imagine they would open it up for the competition without being forced to through legislation. I need to do more homework on this one.
 
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Supercharger network. I have a lot more confidence that I won’t get stranded on long trips.
Yeah, if you plan to do any long drives the Supercharger network cannot be beat. I think you need to do more planning with a Mach-E and keep your fingers crossed that chargers won’t be broken.

Known reliability. Tesla has been making EVs for a while now
Yes, best battery tech out there. I feel really bad for Bolt owners having to worry about their cars randomly catching on fire.

I raised this point to my Ford salesman, and he pulled a Tesla supercharger adapter for the Mach-E from his desk and stated that it could be used at Tesla superchargers.
Salesman doesn’t know what he is talking about. Tesla does not currently allow any other cars to charge at Superchargers. There is talk they may open up the network to other vehicles in the future, but that might be a long ways off.

My guess is the adapter he showed you would work with a Tesla destination charger, but that is a much slower charging option.
 

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