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mspohr
Well-Known Member
I have a few friends who could afford a Tesla and they do go on about "climate change". I tell them to put their money where their mouth is.If I was president of the world I would make it the law that anyone who could afford a tesla must buy one.
Except there are people who don't want to (not can't) spend that much money on a diminishing asset, or take long distance road trips often (13+ hours) and don't want to add the extra 2-3 hours of charging to the trip, etc.If I was president of the world I would make it the law that anyone who could afford a tesla must buy one.
Those are just a few friends with whom I spoke who "can" afford it, but will not buy one.
Interesting. Have you considered getting the solid white (save 1.5k) instead and AP? I read it was nearly identical to the pear white..?
theslimshadyist
Active Member
I don't get the used CPOs thing. You can get a brand new S for 57.5k minus state incentive. You can get a sweet 1.74 percent over 78 month. You get autopilot hardware, faster charging etc.. Potential upgrade to 75, brand new car full warranty (reading some of the reliability concerns here that alone is a big plus).
Do you ever save money every month with higher rates and shorter terms?
Except the OP doesn't want the car you get for $57.5k. His cost $80K. So, given that his hangup is the expense, I suggested that if he would consider a non-AP and non-AWD car, a CPO might be a good compromise, since those can be found with a good number of options for mid $50s.
I have a 3.5 month old 85D. I still break out in a little sweat when I think about how much I paid for it My car loan is larger than some of my rental property mortgages! Like a lot of people here, even though I can afford a 100K car, I definitely went way out of my comfort zone to buy it. I've since read a lot of success stories here about people buying well cared for CPOs with little battery degradation, and I think, maybe, if I were to do it again, that might be a good approach to get into a great car without paying supercar prices.
My car loan is larger than some of my rental property mortgages! Like a lot of people here, even though I can afford a 100K car, I definitely went way out of my comfort zone to buy it. I've since read a lot of success stories here about people buying well cared for CPOs with little battery degradation, and I think, maybe, if I were to do it again, that might be a good approach to get into a great car without paying supercar prices.
SSD420
Member
But didn't you find it exhilarating to pick your own options?I have a 3.5 month old 85D. I still break out in a little sweat when I think about how much I paid for it
i went the used route. But I bought from a private party.
Paid $55k for a P85 with essentially every option and more extras. Big frunk. 4.2s. 253miles of range (battery has degraded a bit since new). Plus I had the seller add the ESA so I have over 5yrs/66k miles bumper to bumper warranty left.
Sure, I don't have AP. Tons of folks love it but when it came down to it, I was willing to forgo it to save enough to buy a 3.
I'm "missing" other features that I don't really miss yet. No parking sensors - I'd like them, but it's not that big a deal. I can't tell you the exact PSI of each of my tires...really my car isn't that much different and IMO is better as a whole than what you get for $80k these days.
I paid less sales tax. It's close to the price of a "sensible" car like a BMW i3 or highlander hybrid. I shouldn't really call it my beater tesla. But I kind of think of it that way. I let the kids eat in in. I tell them not to walk on the leather, but my blood doesn't boil if they do. I park it in any space that's reasonably big enough. It also costs less to insure. Less DMV fees...
...and I paid cash for it. When I read these threads I'm always like, either this person should not buy this car, or, I should be driving a new ludicrous model X ;-)
Anyway, if you're patient, going used can offer great value.
But if you buy new, and maybe you were already thinking this, you seem like the type of buyer who has one crack at this for the next few years. Not the type who flips luxury cars every time the next best thing comes out. So I say order as late as you can to guarantee 2016 delivery. Maximize your features, and roll into tax season to get your $7500 back quickly. There may even be better referral discounts if tesla is trying to reach targets
Paid $55k for a P85 with essentially every option and more extras. Big frunk. 4.2s. 253miles of range (battery has degraded a bit since new). Plus I had the seller add the ESA so I have over 5yrs/66k miles bumper to bumper warranty left.
Sure, I don't have AP. Tons of folks love it but when it came down to it, I was willing to forgo it to save enough to buy a 3.
I'm "missing" other features that I don't really miss yet. No parking sensors - I'd like them, but it's not that big a deal. I can't tell you the exact PSI of each of my tires...really my car isn't that much different and IMO is better as a whole than what you get for $80k these days.
I paid less sales tax. It's close to the price of a "sensible" car like a BMW i3 or highlander hybrid. I shouldn't really call it my beater tesla. But I kind of think of it that way. I let the kids eat in in. I tell them not to walk on the leather, but my blood doesn't boil if they do. I park it in any space that's reasonably big enough. It also costs less to insure. Less DMV fees...
...and I paid cash for it. When I read these threads I'm always like, either this person should not buy this car, or, I should be driving a new ludicrous model X ;-)
Anyway, if you're patient, going used can offer great value.
But if you buy new, and maybe you were already thinking this, you seem like the type of buyer who has one crack at this for the next few years. Not the type who flips luxury cars every time the next best thing comes out. So I say order as late as you can to guarantee 2016 delivery. Maximize your features, and roll into tax season to get your $7500 back quickly. There may even be better referral discounts if tesla is trying to reach targets
CapeOne
Active Member
It all depends on what you want or don’t want as far as things like equipment, how long you plan to keep the car, etc.. Some Tesla CPO prices/deals are ‘better’ than others but I agree that it’s worth comparing against custom order or discounted new inventory cars as well as leasing vs. buying.
Keep saving $1100 a month and either pay cash for a Model 3 or have a huge downpayment for a Model S. Don't stretch yourself financially for a car.
RogerHScott
Active Member
I just sold my previous car after buying my Tesla and I sold it privately for the first time (rather than trading it in). With things like cars.com it is really easy and I got my full asking price, which was well above KBB for a dealer trade-in. We live in a whole new world...
RogerHScott
Active Member
You only say that because you haven't given an MS the chance to show you what your (hitherto unsatisfied) driving "needs" really are!
RogerHScott
Active Member
What a sadly utilitarian world view! A bus will get you from point A to point B.
I have no commute at all, and my wife only a minor one, but we still need/want to drive places.
RogerHScott
Active Member
Oh, now that's funny! My wife and I -- especially my wife -- said the same thing on our way to our test drive. Upon getting out of the car her second foot hadn't hit the ground before she said "We've gotta have this!".
RogerHScott
Active Member
If you're not an MS owner (and, quite possibly, even if you are) I wouldn't be counting my M3-in-'18 chickens before they hatch.
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