Help Needed to identify commando socket

[K3v1n]

Moderator comment - thread renamed from "Help Needed!" to a more descriptive title

Hello,

I hope you can help, I am wondering if anyone on here has the knowledge of if there is an adaptor available to charge my tesla from one of these as pictured below ?

 

[Alistairuk]

Is this a standard outdoor socket? In which case yes, you can get an adapter for your UMC...

Blue Adapter - 16A/32A

Combine with the Gen 2 Universal Mobile Connector to plug in at standard single-phase socket with higher power output. 16A Blue Adapter Plug Diameter: 42 mm Max charge rate: 3.7 kW Range per hour: 22 km with Model 3 17 km with Model S...

shop.tesla.com

 

[Dangerous Fish]

Hello,

I hope you can help, I am wondering if anyone on here has the knowledge of if there is an adaptor available to charge my tesla from one of these as pictured below ?

There's a blue adapter available from the Tesla shop which adapts your UMC to that connector assuming it's the 3 pin commando type.

 

[Jason71]

If you use one you should be able to get 16amps from the UMC rather than the 10amps you get from a standard plug.
Sadly they seem to be out of stock. In 2019 the cars came with them included so lots of people have them already but they stopped including them sadly.

 

[Jason71]

If you are in a hurry or want to use it since its conveniently placed and you can't get the tesla adaptor or dont want to spend £40+
then:

Fly Lead Socket Convertor

Manufactured from 250mm arctic blue cable. 16 amp lead to 13 amp socket. Manufactured to BS 60309.

www.toolstation.com

but you will only get 10amps not 16

 

[Dangerous Fish]

If you use one you should be able to get 16amps from the UMC rather than the 10amps you get from a standard plug.
Sadly they seem to be out of stock. In 2019 the cars came with them included so lots of people have them already but they stopped including them sadly.

The 32A one is in stock, so that and a 16-32A adapter cable would do the trick and then you'd also have the option of plugging into a 32A socket if you ever came across one.

 

[Nick77]

These used to come with the car but not any more, as I found out when I collected mine a few days ago.

I'm sure I saw that Tesla offer them in 16A and 32A versions. I think 32 allows you to charge at 7kwh but I'm not sure on the specs/electrics on that.

 

[K3v1n]

Is this a standard outdoor socket? In which case yes, you can get an adapter for your UMC...

Blue Adapter - 16A/32A

Combine with the Gen 2 Universal Mobile Connector to plug in at standard single-phase socket with higher power output. 16A Blue Adapter Plug Diameter: 42 mm Max charge rate: 3.7 kW Range per hour: 22 km with Model 3 17 km with Model S...

shop.tesla.com

So If i use that link do i need the 16a or the 32amp one do you know ?

 

[Jason71]

Or get the 32amp version and one of these

The 32A one is in stock, so that and a 16-32A adapter cable would do the trick and then you'd also have the option of plugging into a 32A socket if you ever came across one.

was just about to add that option

16 Amp Plug to 32 Amp Socket Adaptor 2.5mm H07RN-F Heavy Duty Cable - 0.5M Lead

2,5mm H07RNF Cable. 16A Blue 3 Pin Plug.32A Blue 3 Pin Socket.

www.jcelectrics.com

 

[Jason71]

So If i use that link do i need the 16a or the 32amp one do you know ?

based on your photo ( it says 16amp on the socket) you need the 16amp but its out of stock

 

[K3v1n]

The 32A one is in stock, so that and a 16-32A adapter cable would do the trick and then you'd also have the option of plugging into a 32A socket if you ever came across one.

So buy the 32amp one then Where would I get that adapter cable please sorry bit hopeless with this stuff ?

 

[Jason71]

So buy the 32amp one then Where would I get that adapter cable please sorry bit hopeless with this stuff ?

if you google "16amp 32amp commando adaptor" and find the best deal
e.g.

16 Amp Plug to 32 Amp Socket Adaptor 2.5mm H07RN-F Heavy Duty Cable - 0.5M Lead

2,5mm H07RNF Cable. 16A Blue 3 Pin Plug.32A Blue 3 Pin Socket.

www.jcelectrics.com

you need 16amp PLUG to 32amp SOCKET

 

[Jason71]

or you could try here:

UK and Ireland Marketplace - For Sale / Wanted / Free

Selling your Tesla or winter tyres? Looking for a charger? In this UK and Ireland Marketplace TMC members from the UK and Ireland can post their personal for sale or wanted ads. Marketplace rules The Marketplace is intended for buyers and sellers to find each other in order to perform legal...

teslamotorsclub.com

see if anyone has a spare one they will sell you. since lots of people got them included and will never use them.

 

[LukeUK]

was just about to add that option

It's an option, but a slightly dangerous one. The car will think it's connected to a 32 A supply, so will try to draw 32 A through the 16 A connector, and wiring.

The charging current can be limited in the car. If it isn't, hopefully the supply will just trip, if it's been properly protected with a suitable MCB. If it hasn't, everything will get a bit warm and quite likely a bit melty.

Luke

Edit - typo.

 

[LukeUK]

I'm sure I saw that Tesla offer them in 16A and 32A versions. I think 32 allows you to charge at 7kwh but I'm not sure on the specs/electrics on that.

Yes, 32 A at 230 V is 7.36 kW. Most domestic 'wall chargers'/EVSEs are rated at 32A single phase, max.

 

[K3v1n]

It's an option, but a slightly dangerous one. The car will think it's connected to a 32 A supply, so will try to try 32 A through the 16 A connector, and wiring.

The charging current can be limited in the car. If it isn't, hopefully the supply will just trip, if it's been properly protected with a suitable MCB. If it hasn't, everything will get a bit warm and quite likely a bit melty.

Luke

Thank you melty zapping fire stuff not really my bag I have posted a request in the forum hopefully someone will have one they want to sell.

K

 

[Jason71]

Thank you melty zapping fire stuff not really my bag I have posted a request in the forum hopefully someone will have one they want to sell.

K

probably a good idea but just so you know the car is smart. if you set it to 16amp in a location it will remember and return to 16amp in that location next time so you don't have to remember every time. and if it was set wrongly to 32 it would just trip the supply. And if your 16amp commando does not have a suitable fuse/mcb I would move /get an electrician to check out your wiring anyways since that would be dangerous for any use.

 

[Adopado]

The 32A one is in stock, so that and a 16-32A adapter cable would do the trick and then you'd also have the option of plugging into a 32A socket if you ever came across one.

Definitely not!! Each adapter for the UMC determines what the car will try to draw. The 32amp commando will tell the car/UMC that's it's fine to take the full 32amps (7+ kW) ... but you are recommending someone connects this to a 16amp rated socket ... this is a bad thing. Hopefully it would just trip the circuit but alternatively they might be really unlucky and it starts a fire.

You can do it the other way around in that you can have a 16amp UMC adapter connected to a 32amp converter to a 32amp supply ... this will be safe but will still only supply 16amps. It does provide another option though.

 

[MrBadger]

As an interim, get a 16A to 13A/3 pin socket and use the standard 13A UMC dongle. It will charge slower, but its only a temporary solution whilst you obtain to correct 16A commando dongle.

Something like this https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/fl01613/lead-single-13a-skt-16a-plug-1/dp/PL14283 et al. which may find a use other than when charging.

 

[NewbieT]

Or an unofficial adapter: European IEC CEE 16A 2P+E Blue Commando (Caravan Mains) Adapter for Tesla Model S/X/3 Gen 2 – EVSE Adapters