Higher mileage Model 3's chime in

[EnrgyNDpndnce]

51k miles, Performance AWD Probably about 75% of charging is in Supercharger. Would be about 10-15k higher had COVID not hit.

Charges to 292 miles. Again large majority SC, daily to 90% when not SC.

Have bad many small issues and service appointments. 2 years later still fighting way bill issues.

But love the car.

Only major frustration is range. I wish they advertised it more realistically, but I knew I was never going to get rated. On a full 100% charge of 292, I average about 200-210 miles in summer, 170-190 in winter.

Had to drive 275 mile trip few weekends back. Left with 100% charge. Showed up early to destination with about 25% charge. SC to about 40%, just because I had a few min and SC was next to me. Drove arounddaround a bit and range was about 35%. Drove to SC 60 miles away, made it with 1 mile left.

That trip I was really disappointed. I knew I would need to stop once, but to have a car rated at 310 miles and have to stop twice to charge to go 275 miles (could have been once in fairness, but would have been a longer charge) and to have huge range anxiety with 1 mile left after driving 60 miles with 35% stated range when I left was a surprise and disappointing...

Re your recent trip, if you had 35% that’s basically 100 miles of range. You drove 60 miles and barely made it, and I’m trying to figure that one out. You said a few weeks ago so I assume it was warm therefore weather was not a significant factor. Did you drive 60 miles at a 7% incline the entire time, or maybe drive 90 mph the whole way? Otherwise I’m struggling to figure out how your efficiency could have been that bad. Having made many, MANY, long trips in my Model 3 I am very familiar with the range limitations and would have no problem making a 60 mile trip with 100 miles of range showing. I would start out at 60 mph and once I got close enough that I knew there would be no issue I would increase to speed limit plus 5 mph (likely 75). The metric I normally use in that case is when rated range equals double the range to the next SC then I increase my speed. I have pulled into a SC with as low as 14 miles remaining, that’s the lowest for me over 81k miles.

 

[Nate977p]

Hello Nate, what’s your average speeds on that last trip.

Fred

Normal New England Highway speeds

 

[TMThree]

2019 LR RWD, 16k miles. Daily charged to 65%, but it stays at 50% these days.

Estimated range will be ... a range.

Here's mine:

I don't drive often anymore, so the latest numbers are less granular than earlier.

 

[Nate977p]

Re your recent trip, if you had 35% that’s basically 100 miles of range. You drove 60 miles and barely made it, and I’m trying to figure that one out. You said a few weeks ago so I assume it was warm therefore weather was not a significant factor. Did you drive 60 miles at a 7% incline the entire time, or maybe drive 90 mph the whole way? Otherwise I’m struggling to figure out how your efficiency could have been that bad. Having made many, MANY, long trips in my Model 3 I am very familiar with the range limitations and would have no problem making a 60 mile trip with 100 miles of range showing. I would start out at 60 mph and once I got close enough that I knew there would be no issue I would increase to speed limit plus 5 mph (likely 75). The metric I normally use in that case is when rated range equals double the range to the next SC then I increase my speed. I have pulled into a SC with as low as 14 miles remaining, that’s the lowest for me over 81k miles.

Alright I pulled TeslaFi. 108 miles rated, went 70. I was up north and did have some mountain grading, but had downhill on other side. And temp rose a bunch during trip (was 60 at end of it, 46 average though) I don't think I had heat run much at all. Average speed about 65. Gained 3100 feet, loss 3300 feet.

And the longer drive there (much warmer 65 degrees, still cold day though). Average speed about the same. 4700 gain in elevation, 4400 loss, so more hilly.

Again, I don't complain about the range as I knew it would be less, but I would love a 400 mile rated 3.

I live in the 60-70% efficiency most of the time. My rule in summer is take % x 2 (assumes about 65% efficiency) is the range. Winter is take miles and divide by 2 (assumes about 50% efficiency).

 

[texas_star_TM3]

I just crossed 40k miles with my M3, besides only charging to 270 miles @100%, I have no complaints and no issues, but I drive a lot and will probably hit 50k miles in the next six months or so. I am curious if those of you coming up on or cresting the limited warranty mark for your M3's are sticking with them or considering owning it out of the warranty period to be risky. The present charge capacity isn't ideal and ive exhausted all the pack balancing tricks known to man and still @ 270. which honestly is just a number and the car performs great otherwise. Thoughts?

270 at 100% SOC vs. the original 310 at 100% SOC is unacceptable... especially when you tried balancing system etc and did a few 100% charge and drive it back down to 2%... that's nearly 13% range loss... in 2 yrs...

 

[4hs93lsi2]

51k miles, Performance AWD Probably about 75% of charging is in Supercharger. Would be about 10-15k higher had COVID not hit.

Charges to 292 miles. Again large majority SC, daily to 90% when not SC.

Have bad many small issues and service appointments. 2 years later still fighting way bill issues.

But love the car.

Only major frustration is range. I wish they advertised it more realistically, but I knew I was never going to get rated. On a full 100% charge of 292, I average about 200-210 miles in summer, 170-190 in winter.

Had to drive 275 mile trip few weekends back. Left with 100% charge. Showed up early to destination with about 25% charge. SC to about 40%, just because I had a few min and SC was next to me. Drove arounddaround a bit and range was about 35%. Drove to SC 60 miles away, made it with 1 mile left.

That trip I was really disappointed. I knew I would need to stop once, but to have a car rated at 310 miles and have to stop twice to charge to go 275 miles (could have been once in fairness, but would have been a longer charge) and to have huge range anxiety with 1 mile left after driving 60 miles with 35% stated range when I left was a surprise and disappointing...

What tire pressure are you running? Have you tried 49 PSI?

 

[privater]

My vin is 20xx, LR RWD with 33k miles, battery still holds 312mi.
Judged on trade in value from Carvana($34k), I plan to driving it till the battery fall off...

Add battery chart from teslafi

 

[Nate977p]

What tire pressure are you running? Have you tried 49 PSI?

No way in heck lol. I run 42-43 and that's too stiff! I live in Boston (well just outside now but drive through daily when I drive) and all over new england. 42-43 is way too stiff already!

I am not complaining, I have come to terms, but if I get 200 miles on a full charge, I am lucky!

 

[Nate977p]

Then I have this....

Drive there, averaged 53 mph and temp was 69 degrees. Gained 3200 feet loss 2600. 72% efficiency.

Drive back, 89 degrees, average 50 mph gained 2400 miles, loss 2900. 92% efficiency (haven't seen that good in some time!)

Obviously there was a difference in elevation.

 

[WesC]

P3D- Aug 2018 delivery, 12,800 miles, 292 miles at 100% charge. whr per mile is 230-260. Dont used heater. Had to use superchargers for a year while living in apt. Somewhat disappointed with range drop off, especially with such low mileage.

 

[M3BlueGeorgia]

Just came back from a 2,130 mile trip
Atlanta 'burbs -> Joplin,MO -> Chicago 'burbs -> Atlanta 'burbs.

The first part included a 242 mile leg between the Superchargers at Minor, MO and Springfield, MO along US60.

Average Whr/mile was 242