Yes, I've read that article and it does me hope. However, without additional details on VIN #s, it does not help. What if that's vin 198,199, and anything else between 1 and 200 we haven't yet seen. What I'm saying is, I'd expect to be seeing 40 new m3 per day at Fremont being delivered if we're to hit at least half the 1500 in q3.
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Highest production VIN in the wild
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AlanSqB
Dog Chauffeur
Is there anywhere they could be socking away "mostly-done" units while they wait for some part? Didn't that happen with the X for a while as they were waiting for one of the vendors to catch up, they just kept building and then put that part in a bunch of them and shipped.
I feel like if they were doing that, we'd see them somewhere, or in transit.
I feel like if they were doing that, we'd see them somewhere, or in transit.
And what happens if 'WE' don't??
Well....
Get it done right (1st priority)
Get it done on time (ok, but see 1st priority)
Most manufacturers focus on the latter cuz it can be fixed later.
Well....
Get it done right (1st priority)
Get it done on time (ok, but see 1st priority)
Most manufacturers focus on the latter cuz it can be fixed later.
We will forum complain with the fury of a thousand suns!
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
I agree, it seems unlikely the employees have much time to run around these days. OTOH, there is a staging area prior to delivery that some people visit. Those VINs should be a fair reflection of ramp and I don't think we have seen it yet.
Fingers crossed !
racer26
Active Member
Because any system designed to accept VIN numbers for any reason should rightly reject a VIN number which fails the check digit check. Its entire purpose is to validate the transcription of the VIN. That's why a check digit exists. Your credit card number has a check digit embedded for the same reason.
Of course. But the point is that an RC car is in a different category. An RC probably should fail a VIN check digit routine. Now, if that check is always off by the same amount for RC cars (i.e. constructing the check digit adds a constant for all RC cars), that essentially gives a second check. So a check digit routine can pass a production car, or fail but notice that it is a pass for an RC car, or fail for both. The RC check will have a slightly higher false positive rate, but who cares for a few hundred cars at most.
Thank you kindly.
I'm sorry, but this makes no sense. It is either a check digit or it isn't. If it is a check digit, then it is made up of the other digits in the VIN and that is non-negotiable. If it is NOT a check digit, then it is not a VIN, and calling it a VIN is wrong.
Now, it's possible that the VIN's on RC cars are not VIN's, rather they are just a bunch of numbers and letters that happen to have a configuration exactly like a VIN, but I have not heard that.
Sigh...
>For production cars certainly.
You answered the question for production cars which I wasn't asking.
What I thought I was clearly asking is why must this be true for RC cars which can't be sold!
In other words, it would be a feature if the VIN check digit was bogus to ensure the car could not be registered.
All I can say is they'd better start pushing cars out and taking orders soon because here we are not just arguing about check digits but hypothesizing that Tesla intentionally fouled check digits in RC VIN-like numbers to guard against illegal sales of such vehicles. Ladies and gentlemen, we are officially ready for the freaking car!
Combining two pieces of information:
1) Model 3 RC sightings
Which gives me the VIN: 5YJ3E1EAXHF000316
and...
2) US VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) validator Online
Gives me the answer that RC VINS are indeed VINs complete with proper check digits and all.
Now, can we return to our regularly scheduled program?
Pics anyone???
1) Model 3 RC sightings
Which gives me the VIN: 5YJ3E1EAXHF000316
and...
2) US VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) validator Online
Gives me the answer that RC VINS are indeed VINs complete with proper check digits and all.
Now, can we return to our regularly scheduled program?
Pics anyone???
powertoold
Active Member
How do we know that's an RC car and not a production car? Elon said they made 50 production cars in July.
so it seems like with 10 days to go in september, there is no possible way 1500 3's are going to get made. i am judging this based on the fact that of non-testing vins the highest seen seems to be #217 (300s being internal test vehicles). i'm guessing the stock price action is reflecting that reality.
i was hopeful after last weekend when sightings went up meaningfully, but since then it's been mostly crickets. if people have a different opinion i would like to hear it plus supporting evidence to help cheer me up a bit. thanks!
i was hopeful after last weekend when sightings went up meaningfully, but since then it's been mostly crickets. if people have a different opinion i would like to hear it plus supporting evidence to help cheer me up a bit. thanks!
Agree X1000. Even accounting for a 1 week delay between PRODUCTION and DELIVERY they are at VIN#500 in the most generous assumption. It'd be a miracle if they hit vin#1000 in september.
Does it matter? I guess for idiot analysts?
I don't properly remember, but I think when we were modeling the exponential ramp-up that "1500" was expected to be something like half produced in the last week of September, which means that a one-week delay would have dramatic effects.
