I suspect that we give EM the benefit of the doubt, which would mean hitting 1,500 car rate by end of September?
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Highest production VIN in the wild
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Are they making more model 3s than the month prior? Did they make more model 3s last month than the month prior to that?
Yes. They did. meaning production rate is increasing. Definition of ramp up.
I know your comments are usually sarcastic, but you just come off as ignorant and dense.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
I've been using 'ramp up' as short-hand to mean Elon's plans for an an exponential growth that reaches ~ 1500 cars this month and 5,000 cars a week by the end of the year.
I find this gnashing of teeth about the ramp-up to be slightly strange. Tesla has enormous motivation to get through this as quickly as possible. A bunch of guys whining on the internet isn't going to make one bit of difference.
Having been through "manufacturing hell" too many times, I can tell you that they are doing absolutely everything they can to get the vehicles out, short of shipping out defects.
Sometimes you just need to sit back and let them do the job.
Having been through "manufacturing hell" too many times, I can tell you that they are doing absolutely everything they can to get the vehicles out, short of shipping out defects.
Sometimes you just need to sit back and let them do the job.
racer26
Active Member
To put an end to the check digit nonsense.
Check digits are defined BY LAW.
Tesla doesn't get to decide how to calculate them.
The commonly cited example of 5YJ3E1EAXHF000316 as being an RC is flat out wrong. It is a production car. It might be a company owned test car, but it is a production car that they could legally sell if they want to. It has a production VIN which follows all of the rules for how to make a production VIN with the published VIN decoder. The check digit being X is what you're supposed to use when they remainder of dividing by 11 in the final step is 10. I have driven production Model S's with an X in the check digit.
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Is the VIN tag on a known RC car. 5YJ3A1E109FR00042. You'll note, if you follow the rules for how to calculate the check digit, this is still valid. Tesla has for both the S and X used an R in digit 12 to signify RC cars, and this VIN tag (and a similar one for the car that went to NZ for snow testing) proves they did just that again for the Model 3.
This VIN does not satisfy some of the other ordinary things, though. digit 5 = A is meant to signify a 5 door LHD hatchback (what model S is) and not a 4 door LHD sedan (what Model 3 is, and is signified by the E in this position in the valid VIN). Also, digit 10 = 9 suggests a 2009 Model year. Model 3's should have an H here for 2017. Perhaps for RC cars they use the model year digit slot as some sort of version number.
Check digits are defined BY LAW.
Tesla doesn't get to decide how to calculate them.
The commonly cited example of 5YJ3E1EAXHF000316 as being an RC is flat out wrong. It is a production car. It might be a company owned test car, but it is a production car that they could legally sell if they want to. It has a production VIN which follows all of the rules for how to make a production VIN with the published VIN decoder. The check digit being X is what you're supposed to use when they remainder of dividing by 11 in the final step is 10. I have driven production Model S's with an X in the check digit.
This: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
Is the VIN tag on a known RC car. 5YJ3A1E109FR00042. You'll note, if you follow the rules for how to calculate the check digit, this is still valid. Tesla has for both the S and X used an R in digit 12 to signify RC cars, and this VIN tag (and a similar one for the car that went to NZ for snow testing) proves they did just that again for the Model 3.
This VIN does not satisfy some of the other ordinary things, though. digit 5 = A is meant to signify a 5 door LHD hatchback (what model S is) and not a 4 door LHD sedan (what Model 3 is, and is signified by the E in this position in the valid VIN). Also, digit 10 = 9 suggests a 2009 Model year. Model 3's should have an H here for 2017. Perhaps for RC cars they use the model year digit slot as some sort of version number.
dennis
Model S Plaid
That is not true. VIN 200 was seen on a Monroney sticker in a group of cars awaiting delivery well after the July 28 event. The cars delivered there had VINs in the low double digits. Many of them have been seen in the employee charging area of the Fremont parking lot.
Here's proof of that. It took me less than 10 minutes to do.
*** THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL FAKE ***
dennis
Model S Plaid
You should have spent another 5 minutes to make the color of the "5" match the other digits.
DrivingRockies
Closed
I think it's real. The ramp-up is getting quicker!
I agree. I only did it to prove a point. I don't think anyone on here would bother to do it to try to fool the rest of us. If it was way out of sequence no one would believe it anyway. And to post one that was within a believable range wouldn't be worth the bother
Treasure of info about vin 259 owner learning about his m3 if you're interested:
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powertoold
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I don't understand why some of you are so nitpicky about the production ramp.
Elon has said multiple times that they can't predict when the exponential phase of the ramp will happen, but we can safely assume they will be +- 1-2 months within schedule (based on their delivery estimates allowing a 3-month range).
Sure, maybe Tesla isn't going to make 1500 total cars by the end of Sept, but in the big scheme of things, they can easily make 1000 in a week once they hit that exponential phase.
Elon has said multiple times that they can't predict when the exponential phase of the ramp will happen, but we can safely assume they will be +- 1-2 months within schedule (based on their delivery estimates allowing a 3-month range).
Sure, maybe Tesla isn't going to make 1500 total cars by the end of Sept, but in the big scheme of things, they can easily make 1000 in a week once they hit that exponential phase.
N5329K
Active Member
The slower they go, the more time to iron out the wrinkles. Investor opinions may differ.
Robin
Waiting4M3
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Maybe Tesla isn't bending over backwards to keep their employee M3 customers informed. I think Tesla treats their regular customers really well, I mean what other automakers give you a VIN # to track weeks before delivery?
