First Roadster 245mi, 56kWh.
10 years later 3 has a better range.
Roadster-2 is 600+ mi, 200kWh.
How long before this range comes to 3?
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Highest production VIN in the wild
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10 years later 3 has a better range.
Roadster-2 is 600+ mi, 200kWh.
How long before this range comes to 3?
dgpcolorado
high altitude member
I don't think that the 3 will get that sort of range, barring some major battery technology breakthrough, since it is the "more affordable" model — the goal being to keep the cost down. 300 miles is enough, given the increasingly robust Supercharger network, although some increase in range is likely to keep ahead of the competition. (Assuming that competition does finally happen someday!)
Since it is June, I would expect that Tesla is sitting on cars already built while waiting for July 1st, for USA tax credit reasons. VIN reports seem to have stalled out in the 29k to 34k range.
dgpcolorado
high altitude member
Not a lot of actual VIN reports the last couple of weeks in the Canada VIN and delivery thread:
Canada VIN thread and Delivery Thread
Except for the ones posting about delivery problems, I think the new owners must be busy driving their cars!
2,067 new Model 3 VINs have been registered. Highest VIN is now 53800.
https://twitter.com/Model3VINs/status/1008981861987594242
https://twitter.com/Model3VINs/status/1008981861987594242
Waiting4M3
Active Member
We've seen VIN ~40k reported in CJ's VIN chart. Tesla is at 3500/wk now and going up to 5k/wk, so 53800-40000 gives them ~3 weeks of VINs to use. I think we will continue to see more VIN registration soon.
I dunno this is really weird guys. No actual VIN sightings/photos above 30k in almost a month now?
If Tesla is anywhere near 5k a week then they are warehousing ALOT of cars and I don’t know where they could be doing that without someone leaking about some massive warehouse with literally tens of thousands of M3’s!
Either that or they have shut down production but again would think that would have leaked out as well.
Don’t buy that all production is going to Canada currently either as I’m sure some higher VINs up north would have been spotted/posted by now!
Final option is they are sending M3’s out all over the country to be warehoused somewhere close to the final buyer. Then come July 1st they release tens of thousands of cars all at once but that would probably overwhelm the few stores/service centres they do have - all while they are currently downsizing the store/service centre staff??
Something doesn’t add up. I hope it’s good news come July 1st but I’m not so sure anymore.
Would it really be worth all this just to miss hitting 200k in the USA before the end of Q2?
US should have changed the federal rebate to 500,000 by now anyway. Reward the company that has done more than all others to promote sustainable transport..don’t punish them because they have done a much better job than all the other lazy automakers! Look how many jobs Tesla has created!
Write your congressmen guys! I would but I’m not an American.
If Tesla is anywhere near 5k a week then they are warehousing ALOT of cars and I don’t know where they could be doing that without someone leaking about some massive warehouse with literally tens of thousands of M3’s!
Either that or they have shut down production but again would think that would have leaked out as well.
Don’t buy that all production is going to Canada currently either as I’m sure some higher VINs up north would have been spotted/posted by now!
Final option is they are sending M3’s out all over the country to be warehoused somewhere close to the final buyer. Then come July 1st they release tens of thousands of cars all at once but that would probably overwhelm the few stores/service centres they do have - all while they are currently downsizing the store/service centre staff??
Something doesn’t add up. I hope it’s good news come July 1st but I’m not so sure anymore.
Would it really be worth all this just to miss hitting 200k in the USA before the end of Q2?
US should have changed the federal rebate to 500,000 by now anyway. Reward the company that has done more than all others to promote sustainable transport..don’t punish them because they have done a much better job than all the other lazy automakers! Look how many jobs Tesla has created!
Write your congressmen guys! I would but I’m not an American.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
I'm not sweating it. People are starting to get VINs, and people are posting that the "Edit My Design" link has disappeared from their accounts (indicating their order is now locked in/progressing).
The floodgates will open in ~10 days.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
Exactly. The Performance/AWD line-in-a-tent has supposedly been up and running since the 11th. People's Design Studio links are changing. We HAVE seen some higher VINs being assigned to owners, and there's one more important thing to note about VINs:
They're not required to be registered with NHTSA until the vehicle is ready to be put into service.
Meaning: Tesla can build these cars, with the VINs assigned and everything (for parts-tracking, etc), and only have those VINs stored locally. They can sit on those cars, and when they are ready to ship them, THEN they can register them with NHTSA, so that when you go to get insurance and financing, your VIN is "valid".
I have a feeling they're sitting on some cars, and in the wee hours of July 1st, NHTSA will be seeing a flood of new VINs being registered.
voip-ninja
Give me some sugar baby
Tesla possibly could use temp/intern labor to deliver cars for a month or two in order to get caught up.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
I hope not.
I understand Tesla manipulating the 200k car mark to gain another quarter of full tax credit; after all, Elon has been upfront about that for years. Manipulating VIN registrations is a different matter entirely and would be done to tweak the stock market.
That is a slippery slope.
So much agree, but my pedanticness must point out that the NHTSA site is only a portal to Tesla's servers. So there is no registration as such, rather Tesla updates their database to acknowledge the VINs so, when NHTSA pings them due to end user request, they get data back.
(rusty pseudo SQL)
for visible, built in Model3NHTSA where built == true and visible == False, visible = true
Tesla never claimed VIN registration as a metric of anything, so I disagree that skipping, back filling, and/or delaying non-delivered vehicle updates is actionable. If people assume correlation, that is on them.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
Even then, VIN registrations don't matter when it comes to the tax credit.
Every car sitting at a Service Center that hasn't been "put in service" has a VIN on it. That's the date/number that matters: "put-in-service date".
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
There's nothing stopping Tesla from keeping the VINs off their NHTSA-facing servers for the time being.
Exactly. We've (the Tesla community as a whole) taken to doing that, and we tend to get excited with the higher numbers. We all tend to forget, however, that there is nothing in writing that says an OEM has to sequentially produce vehicles according to their VIN.
