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HOA - Condo charging issues?

Discussion in 'Model X' started by pluginx007, Apr 2, 2016.

  1. pluginx007

    pluginx007 MXCar :)

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    Hi, I have a Model X on its way and now a 3... My HOA doesn't have any outlets or common area EV chargers.

    Has anyone had issues with their HOA not allowing them to install an outlet in your own space? I have a meter in the garage that isn't too far, but my panel is in my unit.. and they do not want to deal with me taking power from their breaker as metering and billing is something they do not want to deal with.


    Thanks! will appreciate all the help I can get.
     
  2. mk9027866

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  3. mblakele

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    Ask the HOA for their policy on California Civil Code Section 1353.9. As I understand it, landlords and HOAs have very little scope to say "no" as long as you are willing to shoulder the costs and liability.
     
  4. pluginx007

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    Thanks! Yes I am willing to pay what it costs, but they don't want me taking power from their panels as they don't want to deal with me paying a fee to them.
     
  5. mblakele

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    That's understandable and reasonable, at least in my opinion. The HOA isn't set up to be a utility after all. Have you looked into installing a submeter that bills to you, with your usage automatically subtracted from the HOA's meter? That probably means working with your local utility, which may not be easy.
     
  6. mk9027866

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    Services like evercharge or semaconnect take out the need for a submeter. If I can ever get my board to move forward over here, I think evercharge will be the choice.
     
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    pluginx007
    If its a big building, I would check if any other tenants have or are getting an EV and then you can both lobby your board. You can then set up a shared charger and split the cost :)
     
  8. 4SUPER9

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    Well, like @mblakele pointed out, in California, HOA's do not have a say in allowing you to have a charger. They can place reasonable limits, such as requiring you to install your own meter. Failure of the HOA to comply results in a large penalty. I believe it is $10,000. You will be required to do the following:
    1. Have a liability policy that specifically names the building.
    2. Obtain all necessary permits
    3. Use a licensed contractor
    4. Foot the entire bill yourself
    You do not need access to the panel in your unit. You have the option of tying into your existing meter at the source (which is exactly what I did), or adding a second meter. You can get a quote from an electrician and look at your utility rates, and find out which is better for you.
     
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