HOLD -- Coming up while stopped very often lately

[turbosetch]

I am on the latest software and after one of the recent updates I have noticed that with cruise control or AP1 engaged that at red lights or behind stopped traffic the car is going into a hold mode rather quickly.

Today I tested it at a red light behind a car, I caught the light right at the beginning of the red cycle and before it turned green the car switched to the HOLD state. The same exact thing also happened the other day while in stop and go traffic. Of course a quick tap to the throttle pedal and its back to going again but I find it kind of annoying having such a short wait period before holding.

I have been using these features since I got the car last year and I use them daily, I never ran into this before and in the last week or two I have had it happen several times.

I suspect something changed on my car or in the software? Anyone else?

This is a Model S P85D.

 

[mspohr]

Haven't noticed this recently but it sounds like the behaviour of the AP1 way back three years ago when I got my car. If you were stopped in traffic, at a light, etc. for more than a short period of time, you would need to tap the accelerator or the cruise control stalk to get it going again.
Odd that this behaviour should return.

 

[jorobsand]

I noticed this too in my P100D on the latest release. Not sure if it is in my head or if it is holding more frequently without a hard press of the brake at a light. I usually do use the hold feature at a light so I may be engaging it innately without realizing it too.

 

[roblab]

I don't understand. You stop, it says "hold". You can remove your foot from the brake and it won't roll. Nothing bad about that. Light turns green, or it's safe to go at the stop sign. You press the accelerator, "hold" releases and you move forward.

At least on my 3, there is no noticeable delay when starting. I can't see any problem with the car holding the brakes for me until I push the go-pedal. What's the problem? It just guarantees you don't roll forward or back into a car if you're not paying attention.

 

[andrewket]

I don't understand. You stop, it says "hold". You can remove your foot from the brake and it won't roll. Nothing bad about that. Light turns green, or it's safe to go at the stop sign. You press the accelerator, "hold" releases and you move forward.

At least on my 3, there is no noticeable delay when starting. I can't see any problem with the car holding the brakes for me until I push the go-pedal. What's the problem? It just guarantees you don't roll forward or back into a car if you're not paying attention.

You guys are talking about two different holds. You’re talking about hill hold (which I also use at stoplights). The OP is talking about hold mode with AP. AP won’t start moving again with the car in front of you until you tap the accelerator.

 

[HookBill]

I’m on AP2 MX90 and experienced the same behavior a couple of times also. Baffling.

 

[ICUDoc]

It stops you driving into pedestrians who walk in front of you. Sensible design.
A little touch on the accelerator to reassure, and all is good...

 

[SDRick]

I thought AP stops and starts without inputs. At least it did with my AP1.

 

[escheffers]

I noticed the same in a traffic jam this morning. I installed 2018.10.4 last Friday.
I only saw this behaviour before a couple of times when I activated cruise control at a red light.
Hope it's fixed soon, as it is really annoying.

 

[turbosetch]

I'm not sure it is something to fix per say. I think they made it that way maybe so you don't fall asleep or something in stop and go traffic..lol. I have no idea but yes it clearly says "HOLD" on the screen and the car will just sit in the middle if the intersection or traffic until you give it an input of some sort to show you are alive.

 

[chillaban]

According to the manual, HOLD shows up if:
- there’s an obstruction (ultrasonic sensor) in front of your car
- a pedestrian is detected near your car
- you are stopped for more than 5 minutes
- the lead car suddenly disappears (which suggests a vision malfunction)

Some of these situations auto-clear, others require your intervention.

 

[brkaus]

According to the manual, HOLD shows up if:
- there’s an obstruction (ultrasonic sensor) in front of your car
- a pedestrian is detected near your car
- you are stopped for more than 5 minutes
- the lead car suddenly disappears (which suggests a vision malfunction)

Some of these situations auto-clear, others require your intervention.

I've noticed the HOLD if the car in front rolls back a bit towards me...

 

[Quickstart88]

Hey Guys,

I am a little embarrassed to ask. Getting ready to pick up my M3. No EAP. This is the only feature I don't quit understand how it work.
I believed there's a setting stop/hold? From what I understand, if you push on your break coming to a stop lights or a car in front of you that's i not moving, as you press on the brake to a stop - there is some notification hold is activated. You can let go of your break and the car will continue to stop for you?

Perhaps I can ask my delivery specialist or read the manual. Just wondering how this feature works.

Also if you are on a incline some said the car will roll backward if this setting is not enable.

 

[Raechris]

No - once you brake to a complete stop, a little extra pressure on the brake peddle and a small H icon with a circle around it appears. This will hold the car without your foot on the brakes but brakes and lights remain engaged in drive until you either press brake again or the accelerator. This is not unique to tesla and is different from hill hold assist OP wishing for above.
Congrats on your M3! Welcome to the family.