So I’m taking delivery of my Model S 60kw tomorrow and I’m stoked out of my mind. What type of outlets are needed to set up the wall charger? Also I live in AZ so if anyone has a recommended electrician that would be great!
Wrong and dangerous information here. You can NOT use a 60A breaker on an outlet. The highest amp 240V outlet used with Tesla is the NEMA 14-50 outlet which is used for a 50A circuit (the 50 in NEMA 14-50). The Generation 1 UMC which will come with your car draws 40A with the 14-50 adapter (80% of 50A). This will charge the Model S at 29 miles rated range per hour of charging
Where is that in the manual?To be clear, I was suggesting a breaker rated at a 50% buffer above the rated current of the charger because that's what Tesla's home charger installation manual suggests.
Where is that in the manual?
You're confusing the Tesla Wall Connector (hardwired, up to 100A breaker) with the Mobile Connector (plug in with e.g. 14-50 max 50 A.I don’t have it in front of me to look it up, but I was originally planning on doing my own installation. As I recall, the manual suggests a 60A breaker for a single charger(48A max) or 100A breaker for dual charger(72A max), the idea being that you don’t want it to trip due to running right up against the maximum.
Not only are you confusing the Wall Connector and outlets for UMC, you’re confusing 48A and 72A with the old single and dual chargers, and saying 50% when you mean 20%. For continuous use (such as EV charging) you can only draw 80% of the size circuit. So yes, 48A charging needs at least 60A circuit. But that can only happen with the hardwired Wall Connector, not by plugging into an outlet.I don’t have it in front of me to look it up, but I was originally planning on doing my own installation. As I recall, the manual suggests a 60A breaker for a single charger(48A max) or 100A breaker for dual charger(72A max), the idea being that you don’t want it to trip due to running right up against the maximum.
Fair enough. Mea culpa.Not only are you confusing the Wall Connector and outlets for UMC, you’re confusing 48A and 72A with the old single and dual chargers, and saying 50% when you mean 20%. For continuous use (such as EV charging) you can only draw 80% of the size circuit. So yes, 48A charging needs at least 60A circuit. But that can only happen with the hardwired Wall Connector, not by plugging into an outlet.
Not only are you confusing the Wall Connector and outlets for UMC, you’re confusing 48A and 72A with the old single and dual chargers, and saying 50% when you mean 20%. For continuous use (such as EV charging) you can only draw 80% of the size circuit. So yes, 48A charging needs at least 60A circuit. But that can only happen with the hardwired Wall Connector, not by plugging into an outlet.
My post that you quoted did refer to circuit size. I never even used the word breaker.And it also seems as if everyone forgets the size of the wiring required. The big gauge wires get really expensive.
You just don't choose a breaker size. You size the entire circuit, current, breaker, plug, usage all go together to determine the components. These circuits are generally the biggest thing in a house. Unlike things like a dryer, they tend to stay on for long times and the wiring can get quite warm. This isn't the place to take shortcuts.
Sorry, wring focus, I was replying to the post in whole. Too many people just keep talking about switching breakers to solve the problem. As an Electrical Engineer, breakers and plus are ancillary, it's the wire gauge that tells the story. As long as the breaker is rate below wire size, and the plug more than wire size, I'm happy.My post that you quoted did refer to circuit size. I never even used the word breaker.
Battery capacity is measured in kWh, not "kw".So I’m taking delivery of my Model S 60kw tomorrow